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Looking to Upgrade, mainly for BF4

CloneRico

CloneRico

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Hey guys so this is my first post on here, I've read a few threads and heard good things about the community on here so I hope someone could give me some advice.

I'm looking to upgrade my GPU to be able to handle BF4, I believe my current rig could handle it when comparing it to the minimum specs but thats probably on the lowest settings, I can play bf3 on high with about 30 fps which I find to be fine.

My current specs are

Windows 7 - 64 bit
Intel Core i5 650 3.20GHz
Acer Predator G5900
Kingston DDR3 8GB (max 667 MHz each)
EVGA GTX 560 1GB 850MHz
Corsair 700W GS700

I've tried to include as much information as I could without boring you...

I was looking at upgrading to something around the £200 mark...something like a 4gb Asus GTX 670? But idk if the card would actually physically fit in my case or if the CPU would bottleneck it?

I'm hoping to just upgrade the GPU at the moment and will look at upgrading the RAM within a few months as I opted for a really cheap option at the time. Hopefully my CPU will suffice as I've never had any problems with it up to now.

Any help would really be appreciated.
 
if ur only playing at 1080p 2GB will be enough.

670 is a good card. I used to have the evga gtx 670 ftw and it was amazing. but my 560ti's sli were still more powerful just didn't have enough RAM
 
The best GPU at that budget for BF4 is the 7950. I'd get the HIS one at £186.

The i5 650 is only dual core isn't it? It'll probably struggle a bit on that, the minimum recommended spec is a current i5 or an FX-6300.
 
Hey sorry yeah I forgot to say im only playing on 1 monitor at 1080p.

The reccomended for BF4 is a 3gb Card, is this a marketing scheme as AMD have 3GB cards and they are sponsoring BF4 or is that the upcoming games now are going to utilise more than 2GB?

I know the 4GB card actually performs slower than the 2GB @1080p but wouldn't buying the 4GB make it more future proof?

I will be waiting until the BF4 beta releases to see benchmarks and see how my current rig performs before I make a final decision.

My main concern though is whether the card would physically fit in the case. The card I have now seems to be so much smaller that current cards.
 
CloneRico said:
Hey sorry yeah I forgot to say im only playing on 1 monitor at 1080p.

The reccomended for BF4 is a 3gb Card, is this a marketing scheme as AMD have 3GB cards and they are sponsoring BF4 or is that the upcoming games now are going to utilise more than 2GB?

I know the 4GB card actually performs slower than the 2GB @1080p but wouldn't buying the 4GB make it more future proof?
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2gb at 1080p will be fine.
 
The 670 doesn't offer any advantages really over the 7950 except for PhysX, which BF4 isn't going to use obviously. The 7950's a bit faster and cheaper, and BF4's optimised for AMD hardware.

I really think BF4 will use 3GB VRAM with maxed out settings at 1080p. I think this time I'll bet LtMatt's right testicle on this, since he's already bet his left.
 
teppic said:
The best GPU at that budget for BF4 is the 7950. I'd get the HIS one at £186.

The i5 650 is only dual core isn't it? It'll probably struggle a bit on that, the minimum recommended spec is a current i5 or an FX-6300.
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Yeah its only 2 cores, always thought all i5's were 4 core :(

Is there anyway to tell whether the card would physically fit in my case without physically measuring it? Or are all cards made to fit in a standard case?

This is my case here (isn't actually mine but basically identical.
 
passey89 said:
if ur only playing at 1080p 2GB will be enough
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You never asked if the op is planning on keeping the card for some time or going on replacement every new gen cycle...

Displaying higher res textures is vram dependant rather than core dependant, considering UHD texture packs are in development right now(GTAV???), it's a matter of time when 2GB certainly won't be enough.

software houses will really start to support Ultra HD that'll be the moment in time where the real difference will be made as you can expect UHD texture packs in the future. Some software houses already have committed to that, I just am not allowed to tell you which games will have it.
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The HR textures are in development for UHD res, they'll still work on 1080p.


The Asus 4GB 670 is cheaper than the MSI 2GB 670 btw. ;)
 
tommybhoy said:
You never asked if the op is planning on keeping the card for some time or going on replacement every new gen cycle...

Displaying higher res textures is vram dependant rather than core dependant, considering UHD texture packs are in development right now(GTAV???), it's a matter of time when 2GB certainly won't be enough.



The HR textures are in development for UHD res, they'll still work on 1080p.


The Asus 4GB 670 is cheaper than the MSI 2GB 670 btw. ;)
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The % of gamers gaming higher then 1080p is pretty low. Ultra HD is far away yet. I say maybe in the next few years 2gb wont be enough, but for right now 2 gb is great. Most people will upgrade by then any ways.
 
Well at the moment i'm only looking to upgrade my rig to make BF4 playable at fairly high settings, in the future i'll probably look into doing my own build in the next few years but im unsure yet.
 
CloneRico said:
Well at the moment i'm only looking to upgrade my rig to make BF4 playable at fairly high settings, in the future i'll probably look into doing my own build in the next few years but im unsure yet.
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If you go to high in specs with your GPU you'll bottleneck for sure with that CPU.
 
RetrogamerX said:
The % of gamers gaming higher then 1080p is pretty low. Ultra HD is far away yet. I say maybe in the next few years 2gb wont be enough, but for right now 2 gb is great. Most people will upgrade by then any ways.
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You are being pretty definitive that 2GB is 'enough' when a title could appear that won't be able to load 'ultra' HD textures.

UHD may be some way away yes, it's maybe not though, the point is UHD textures will still be usable@1080p, textures require vram, you won't need an UHD monitor to play.

Generally 2GB is enough with only an admittedly scant few occasions where it isn't if you choose to load up loads of high res textures, but nobody knows out with DICE whether a 2GB 670 will be limited in IQ comparison to it's 4GB brother until the full release version of BF4(not the Beta) appears.

Not to say that a 2GB version will suddenly become obsolete as you can lower settings, but nobody wants to lower settings unless they really have to.

It's a bit daft choosing a 2GB 670 over it's 4GB counterpart with possibly requiring to play on lesser settings hence why it's a no brainer from a purchasing pov to go for the higher speced 4GB-no?

:)
 
tommybhoy said:
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It's a bit daft choosing a 2GB 670 over it's 4GB counterpart with possibly requiring to play on lesser settings hence why it's a no brainer from a purchasing pov to go for the higher speced 4GB-no?

:)
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So in conclusion buy a 7950 :D



Also you are going on about Ultra HD textures when discussing a system powered by a dual core i5? Even if/when UHD textures can be applied neither the GPU nor Cpu could run them at a high enough fps to be worth a damn.

I could pile on texture packs to Skyrim and cry foul about vram. Fact is my old card could have 6GB of vram it still wouldn't be able to run the game at acceptable fps.
 
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