ASDA Costume apology.

zenf said:
I haven't, I've heard that stereotype before though but doubted there was much truth in it. Maybe I should spend more times with nurses. :p
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Well it goes back a hundred years ago when nurses weren't really paid and had to earn their keep from the patients. So it does have a historical precedent.
 
Xordium said:
Well it goes back a hundred years ago when nurses weren't really paid and had to earn their keep from the patients. So it does have a historical precedent.
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Interesting.. What I actually heard was that student nurses would do anything for a hot meal, so I guess that's why it only applies to student nurses as opposed to students in general. Funny but slightly depressing how that still persists a hundred years later.
 
Efour said:
Looks like all the OcUK "nutters" are being offended here today.

Same as i do when all the fatty, fat, fat, fat threads pop up :P hahah
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Sweet Jesus you just managed to do exactly what asda did there.

I have (hate it when they say suffer) a diagnosed mental condition. This did not offend me at all but I do think marketing could have thought about it before sending it out.

People with diagnosed mental conditions are easily offended or triggered by comments etc. It's the nature of the conditions. I believe in the fight against stigma but there is more important tasks to be taken than this.

Some people will obviously troll this and one day they might have to deal with mental illness, then they will know.
 
zenf said:
Interesting.. What I actually heard was that student nurses would do anything for a hot meal, so I guess that's why it only applies to student nurses as opposed to students in general. Funny but slightly depressing how that still persists a hundred years later.
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Better get on the phone to Ann Summers then before they offend someone.
 
MrMarvelous said:
I think I know why people are so easily offended these days. It started with the Muslims crying about everything and always getting their own way, now everyone else wants a piece of the pie.
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Nah, it was the blacks first, getting all uppity when we wanted to stop them moving in next door.

Remember lads, if you want a ****** for a neighbour, vote labour!

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Can't believe people got offended, what about my choice to want to offend?!
 
So hurfdurf have you then had a change of heart after that thread a few weeks back and come to realise that maybe what you said was offensive?
 
hurfdurf said:
Nah, it was the blacks first, getting all uppity when we wanted to stop them moving in next door.

Remember lads, if you want a ****** for a neighbour, vote labour!

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Can't believe people got offended, what about my choice to want to offend?!
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I am offended at the word "burdoned". Surely it is burdened, as in "I would hate to be burdened by a neighbour with Asperger Syndrome or Autism" or "I would hate to be burdened with a relative to has nearly ten posts a day on OcUK!"
 
bitslice said:
I don't consider myself to be sensitive or PC, but I think that's really awful :(
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This. I'm no PC kid either. If it was a prisoner costume (think of black and white stripes or an orange boiler suit), then I think it's fine because they've committed the crime to do the time in the first place. Forensic is only a small proportion of mental health patients, so to tar all mental health patients with the same brush goes a bit far IMO.
 
simpletom said:
I am offended at the word "burdoned". Surely it is burdened, as in "I would hate to be burdened by a neighbour with Asperger Syndrome or Autism" or "I would hate to be burdened with a relative to has nearly ten posts a day on OcUK!"
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looks at post count.
remembers he mentioned in a thread yesterday my post count is huge but I only average almost 10 posts a day.
remembers telling people he's autistic.
is not related to you.

Wonders if simpletom is having some form of dig at arknor.

BTW I am the perfect neighbour! never make a mess , never have parties or loud friends over! and my neighbours don't know I am autistic because you can't tell from looking at me.

I likely appear as a street wise adult to them who wouldn't take any ****
 
Where exactly in a mental ward do psychopathic knife wielding maniacs belong? I mean, if they don't belong in the psycho ward, then where do they go?
 
Kobi said:
Where exactly in a mental ward do psychopathic knife wielding maniacs belong? I mean, if they don't belong in the psycho ward, then where do they go?
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They only belong on a film set clearly yet people don't understand it's not an attack on mental people just a fancy dress costume based on movies.


unless you are criminally insane you should not be offended surely
 
Speaking as someone with BP in the family I am far more offended by the fact that BP is now "Flavour of the month" for whiny overpaid celebs!

The idea of being "Stigmatised" by images of "Jason" romping around in a blood soaked orange onecie wielding a meat cleaver doesn't bother me anything like as much as the idea that I might be compared to Stephen Fry going off on a Gay-boy hissy fit!

That really offends me! :D
 
The costumes represent a truth, one that was picked up and depicted by Hollywood. We may not like that truth, but yes -occasionally some people with mental health problems can be knife weilding mass murderers and commit gruesome acts. That is not to say everyone with a mental health problem is a knife weilding maniac - but generally those caught and convicted of the most heinous crimes tend to have some kind of mental disfunction.

So really, are these costumes unfair stereotyping? Or are they actually pretty accurate, considering the perpetrators of such terrible cold blooded, grusome acts of mass murder generally have mental/personality issues of some kind, and usually end up in some maximum security complex (if caught) where they are under strict guard for everyone elses safety? Usually they have APD, lack of empathy, brain injury etc etc. Yes they are functional to the public eye in many cases and although they are not legally 'insane' most of them have something not right somehwere.

Making light of mental health problems is not a nice thing to do - but I think these costumes represent something so far removed from the majority of people with mental health issues that the comparison becomes null and void.

We seem to be trying to make tenuous links in order to generate column inches.

These kinds of costumes have been for sale for years - so why only now is it national news?

If the majority of people really believe the average person with a mental health issue is a blood stained, boiler suit wearing knife weilding murderer then we have far bigger problems than what Haloween costumes Asda are selling!!

The discussion should surely be about the shallow, ill informed and obviously ludicrous nature of the general public.

Ohhhh, I see, I get it now. Its not about protecting the image of those with mental health issues, it is about protecting the dumb ass public from themselves, because obviously we cant tell the difference between what a Haloween costume represents and what someone with depression, or Bi Polar or Schizophrenia represents and we clearly cannot tell the difference between the two.

So given the complete epic fail of the general populace, will removing these costumes from sale actually make a difference to predjudice and ill informed opinions?

Has allowing black people to to use previously white only services eradicated racism?

The costume fiasco is a smoke screen that actually diverts attention from the real issues surrounding mental health - that is the really really sad part.

Total own goal for the cause in my opinion.

Cheers

Buff
 
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