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2gb or 4gb GPU

teppic said:
Your attitude isn't going to get you much help, but you're not listening anyway. What you think is the case is untrue, which is what you're being told.

You can get a 760 if you want, but it will be outperformed by a 670 and 7950, and a 7970 is barely any more expensive which is far ahead of a 760.
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You can lead a horse to water
 
i love how your all saying im the ignorant one when not a single one of you has adressed the question i asked

alli wanted to know was if 4gb of vram would give me any actual benefit at 1080p over a 2gb card and you guys have turned it into some AMD vs. Nvidia crap
 
t103Ninja said:
i love how your all saying im the ignorant one when not a single one of you has adressed the question i asked

alli wanted to know was if 4gb of vram would give me any actual benefit at 1080p over a 2gb card and you guys have turned it into some AMD vs. Nvidia crap
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This forum is like the biggest collection of AMD sympathisers you'll find :p.

The answers you're being given, however, are correct. The AMD cards are better value for money and there aren't any overriding issues with the brand.

That said to answer your question: it is unlikely that the extra 2GB will make any difference over a 4GB version at 1080p. It comes down to the price difference between the two. If you can nab a 4GB version for a tiny bit more than the 2GB version then go for it. Otherwise, if it was me I'd get a 2GB version.

I'd only consider the 4GB if you're looking at definitely going SLI. If it's unlikely to happen at all then really you should look at 2GB.
 
Rusty0611 said:
This forum is like the biggest collection of AMD sympathisers you'll find :p.

The answers you're being given, however, are correct. The AMD cards are better value for money and there aren't any overriding issues with the brand.

That said to answer your question: it is unlikely that the extra 2GB will make any difference over a 4GB version at 1080p. It comes down to the price difference between the two. If you can nab a 4GB version for a tiny bit more than the 2GB version then go for it. Otherwise, if it was me I'd get a 2GB version.

I'd only consider the 4GB if you're looking at definitely going SLI. If it's unlikely to happen at all then really you should look at 2GB.
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yeah i noticed i used to have respect for the people on this forum but its all fanboy crap ask a simple question and just get people dancing saying i should get AMD ugh, thank you for actualy answering the question :)

i will be going SLI for sure with 760's its not such a big deal the price difference between 2 and 4gb isnt really that much but i am trying to stretch my budget a little bit to get a 770 instead but i dont think i can stretch far enough to get 4gb 770's :/
what benefit would i get from 4gb card in SLI?
 
Rusty0611 said:
This forum is like the biggest collection of AMD sympathisers you'll find :p.

The answers you're being given, however, are correct. The AMD cards are better value for money and there aren't any overriding issues with the brand.

That said to answer your question: it is unlikely that the extra 2GB will make any difference over a 4GB version at 1080p. It comes down to the price difference between the two. If you can nab a 4GB version for a tiny bit more than the 2GB version then go for it. Otherwise, if it was me I'd get a 2GB version.

I'd only consider the 4GB if you're looking at definitely going SLI. If it's unlikely to happen at all then really you should look at 2GB.
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What he said.
Even in BF4 it seems that 2GB should be enough for 1080p (although LtMatt might argue that point).

One further question you might want to consider is if you think you're likely to upgrade the monitor during the time you use this card (or cards).
At higher resolutions with enough GPU grunt (so you'd probably want at least 2 cards for that) it may be that you'd see some benefit from the 4GB. As far as BF4 goes, there is still some debate around this.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
What he said.
Even in BF4 it seems that 2GB should be enough for 1080p (although LtMatt might argue that point).

One further question you might want to consider is if you think you're likely to upgrade the monitor during the time you use this card (or cards).
At higher resolutions with enough GPU grunt (so you'd probably want at least 2 cards for that) it may be that you'd see some benefit from the 4GB. As far as BF4 goes, there is still some debate around this.
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thanks for the info
i bought a 1080p 144hz monitor for my new rig i wont be upgrading that untill they make a 144hz 1440p monitor wich is probaly quite a way off and i dont like the whole multi monitor thing
 
t103Ninja said:
yeah i noticed i used to have respect for the people on this forum but its all fanboy crap ask a simple question and just get people dancing saying i should get AMD ugh, thank you for actualy answering the question :)

i will be going SLI for sure with 760's its not such a big deal the price difference between 2 and 4gb isnt really that much but i am trying to stretch my budget a little bit to get a 770 instead but i dont think i can stretch far enough to get 4gb 770's :/
what benefit would i get from 4gb card in SLI?
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With one card you're looking at having to turn down settings to maintain playable frame rates in some games which more often than not reduces the VRAM requirement considerably as well (e.g. MSAA and HBAO which are both quite expensive on framerate and memory).

The theory is that with two cards, you've got ample "oomph" to run max settings in all games and therefore as games are currently sort of approaching 2GB you might end up in a scenario whereby you're limited by your memory amount as opposed to by the "oomph" that your card(s) possess.

The argument which is sometimes made is that high resolution textures can have a high memory footprint but don't actually require that much "oomph" to process and that as consoles have 8GB of memory (or around 4-5GB for games) this is a route which is going to be taken. It continues that therefore you may end up in a situation where you cards just tank as they can't handle the high resolution textures. Personally, I don't think this will happen because:

a) the mass majority of the market is 2GB or under so developers will want to make sure the game runs on high-ish settings on most set-up's (performance problems are not good for any studio)

b) it will take a while for developers to really get to grips with the console hardware anyway and really extract the potential out of it. By the time this takes place, personally, I feel we'll be two generations of cards further on anyway
 
Rusty0611 said:
With one card you're looking at having to turn down settings to maintain playable frame rates in some games which more often than not reduces the VRAM requirement considerably as well (e.g. MSAA and HBAO which are both quite expensive on framerate and memory).

The theory is that with two cards, you've got ample "oomph" to run max settings in all games and therefore as games are currently sort of approaching 2GB you might end up in a scenario whereby you're limited by your memory amount as opposed to by the "oomph" that your card(s) possess.

The argument which is sometimes made is that high resolution textures can have a high memory footprint but don't actually require that much "oomph" to process and that as consoles have 8GB of memory (or around 4-5GB for games) this is a route which is going to be taken. It continues that therefore you may end up in a situation where you cards just tank as they can't handle the high resolution textures. Personally, I don't think this will happen because:

a) the mass majority of the market is 2GB or under so developers will want to make sure the game runs on high-ish settings on most set-up's (performance problems are not good for any studio)

b) it will take a while for developers to really get to grips with the console hardware anyway and really extract the potential out of it. By the time this takes place, personally, I feel we'll be two generations of cards further on anyway
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thanks so much :)

based on what you just said i think ill stick with 2gb cards and see if i can stretch my budget to 770's :D
i do generaly turn things like AA off because to be honest at 1080p i dont really see what AA does apart from sap frame rate
 
What CPU do you have?

AA reduces the appearance of jagged edges. Railings are normally a good thing to check. Go find some railings in BF3 and turn FXAA and MSAA off and you should see the difference.
 
Rusty0611 said:
What CPU do you have?

AA reduces the appearance of jagged edges. Railings are normally a good thing to check. Go find some railings in BF3 and turn FXAA and MSAA off and you should see the difference.
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i7 4770k for the new rig in my current rig that using untill the new one is read i have an i3 3220 lol

jagged edges right, well thats cool because i really dont look for that stuff so thats not a big deal
 
Good good. An i7 is recommended IMO. One thing the new console games will do is push multi-core/thread performance so an i7 is a good choice. Make sure you overclock it :)
 
Rusty0611 said:
Good good. An i7 is recommended IMO. One thing the new console games will do is push multi-core/thread performance so an i7 is a good choice. Make sure you overclock it :)
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yeah of course im going to overclock it :p i was going to get an i5 but i also record a lot of gameplay with dxtory and edit/render that video with sony vegas so i figured the i7 was the way to go i didnt really think about from a gaming standpoint
 
Yeah. There's a few games recently benefiting from the extra threads on the i7. Even BF3 benefited with dual cards. Not massively but it can free them up a little.

Was something like 75% GPU usage on each to 95% usage on each I saw from dropping an i7 in.
 
Rusty0611 said:
Yeah. There's a few games recently benefiting from the extra threads on the i7. Even BF3 benefited with dual cards. Not massively but it can free them up a little.

Was something like 75% GPU usage on each to 95% usage on each I saw from dropping an i7 in.
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cool glad i didnt decide to scrimp on the CPU then :)
 
I'd like to point out that I'm in no way an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but personally if you are defo going to go for an SLI setup, I'd be looking at getting the 4gb version of the 760, simply because when you do add another card, it will be your amount of memory that'll hold you back. Two 760 will provide a huge amount of grunt, but with only 2gb of memory available it them, it's this that will be the bottleneck. For the small amount extra your better off getting the 4gb card and giving the card twice as much memory to play with :)
 
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