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You can buy insurance from intel for overclocks?.
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You can buy insurance from intel for overclocks?.
The tops get marked when installed so they could not sell them as new. I imagine either use them in a system or B-Grade.
O/P this might be worth a watch.
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Nah, they have 8 pack blow them up in a special nuclear powered secret cave underneath OcUK headquarters.
Then they send them back to intel and they get replaced and refunded
(not totally serious, they only get replaced)
Then they send them back to intel and they get replaced and refunded
(not totally serious, they only get replaced)
Don't agree. They're charging you for nothing. It's similar with internet bandwidth and the whole "Let's charge people for the air they breathe".
They never used to lock chips until they realised there was money in it. Then they start selling it. As such if I was overclocking one I would have expectations of it, given that I had paid for the privilege.
If I went to a high end restaurant and didn't like the food because it didn't meet my expectations I would not pay for it.
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You pay for the ability to overclock via an unlocked multi. That's it.
Same as the AMD chip, some get higher overclocks than others. Should they return them? Whats the cut off point? 100MHz, 400MHz? Less. More.
No less disappointing for those that get a bad one, although many of them can still clock higher with some patience.
Same as the AMD chip, some get higher overclocks than others. Should they return them? Whats the cut off point? 100MHz, 400MHz? Less. More.
No less disappointing for those that get a bad one, although many of them can still clock higher with some patience.
The O/P has overclocked to 4.2Ghz ??
Just because so far it has not done as well as others is not really a reason to return although if it falls within the DSR period he would be in his right to do.
A bit more work with the CPU would be a good start.
Just because so far it has not done as well as others is not really a reason to return although if it falls within the DSR period he would be in his right to do.
A bit more work with the CPU would be a good start.
If it was me and it was within my 14 days i would return it if it was bought with the soul intention of being clocked.
Can't all jump on the band wagon saying its wrong to do it as many of the members here already do it with GPU's, how do some of you know this hasn't already been done with items there's been enough threads saying that there item wasn't sealed right etc.
Some of you may have already bought 8pack's tested cpu's you never know! lol
Ocuk made the rule to send items back if your not happy with them with in a time frame so why not use it.
But il just add ive never done this an don't agree with it lmao
Can't all jump on the band wagon saying its wrong to do it as many of the members here already do it with GPU's, how do some of you know this hasn't already been done with items there's been enough threads saying that there item wasn't sealed right etc.
Some of you may have already bought 8pack's tested cpu's you never know! lol
Ocuk made the rule to send items back if your not happy with them with in a time frame so why not use it.
But il just add ive never done this an don't agree with it lmao
No, he got what he paid for. 4.2 is higher than stock.
If a product does not meet my expectations it goes back. End of.
I would have those expectations because I paid for them. So for example, when I bought my first 8 core AMD I wanted 4.2ghz out of it and I got it. Had I not? I'd have sent it back.
OCUK don't feel bad for selling the CPUs 8 pack has turned down and charge a massive premium for those that he has found very capable, so why on earth would you feel bad at all?
I think in the UK people have either very low expectations or, are simply too sheepish when it comes to sticking up for themselves and having expectations.
Haswell chips are really pretty poor. The review samples ALL hit good clocks with half decent temps so Intel were cherry picking themselves. And quelle surprise, they got decent reviews. I doubt very much if an I7 had gone out that wouldn't go over 4.2ghz then it wouldn't have got the reviews.
FFS people stop being so spineless.
If you had Performance Tuning Protection Plan you could blow the CPU and get another 
Point is, haswell already owns at stock. 4.2ghz on all cores is already an over 20% overclock compaired to stock 3.9ghz. Remember, Stock only boosts 2 cores? To 3.9ghz.
You have insane expectations for products, unfortunately the products do not always do what you want them to do, they do what they are designed to do.
The CPU does what it's supposed to with proper cooling and skill. It's not like they manufacture bad quality on purpose; it still beats the previous generation at lower clocks so that's what you pay for.
I dunno, that's debatable with the TIM issue. I still don't buy the excuse for not using solder I think they just took the cheaper option. Plus, for all we know they could be artificially limiting the chips internally via voltages or something (yeah yeah conspiracy but things like that will no doubt be possible by Intel engineers if they want to slow down progress).
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The way I see it DSR is there for if you're not happy with it, for whatever reason. If it's faulty you RMA it, so DSR is nothing to do with faulty.
Which to me means there's not a lot of reasons to DSR something that don't seem 'picky' or the user's fault.
If OcUK weren't ok with people DSRing stuff they wouldn't have extended theirs to 15 (or is it 14) days would they? And surely OcUK know the sort of reasons people will DSR something?
What would you people consider a good reason to DSR?
I've not DSR'd anything for a while, largely because I'm reluctant to pay the postage to return it. Especially if I'm likely to buy the same thing again in the hope the next one is better (that could turn into an expensive vicious circle).
The last thing I DSR'd were 2 MSI 7970 OC cards and 2 Active DP to Dual-Link DVI adaptors. I did it because after ordering them I read about the issues with crossfire + eyefinity (which have since been fixed in a driver update). I now kind of wish I'd stuck with them, but at the time people seemed unsure if AMD would be able to fix the problem with drivers.
Which to me means there's not a lot of reasons to DSR something that don't seem 'picky' or the user's fault.
If OcUK weren't ok with people DSRing stuff they wouldn't have extended theirs to 15 (or is it 14) days would they? And surely OcUK know the sort of reasons people will DSR something?
What would you people consider a good reason to DSR?
I've not DSR'd anything for a while, largely because I'm reluctant to pay the postage to return it. Especially if I'm likely to buy the same thing again in the hope the next one is better (that could turn into an expensive vicious circle).
The last thing I DSR'd were 2 MSI 7970 OC cards and 2 Active DP to Dual-Link DVI adaptors. I did it because after ordering them I read about the issues with crossfire + eyefinity (which have since been fixed in a driver update). I now kind of wish I'd stuck with them, but at the time people seemed unsure if AMD would be able to fix the problem with drivers.
I highly doubt they'd want to slow down progress only from overclockers, we are such a tiny tiny minority afterall.
I do agre the TIM thing sucks (well actually it's the damn gluw on the sides that causes bad contact, the TIM is fine).. But that only limits temps, not the fact that an OC is not stable until you put in high Vcore.
Haswell was about 0% designed with the enthusiast in mind.
It was 100% designed with the tablet and mobile/laptop market in mind, which is where the money is now. If I had the cash to buy Intel I would most probably get a 3770k and clock it hard. But even Ivy wasn't a significant upgrade to Sandy, they just shrunk the die and brought down the power consumption.
Intel are moving away from desktop PCs in a way. There's no future in it for them, they need to get to new pastures. Thus they probably didn't care how badly Haswell CPUs overclock. Didn't stop them still charging the enthusiast for it, though.
As desktop sales slump more and more Intel need to find a new niche to belong to. AMD have pretty much sewn up anything even so much as resembling a game now and once Mantle is alive and well there will be absolutely no reason to buy hardware for gaming from any other vendor.
It was 100% designed with the tablet and mobile/laptop market in mind, which is where the money is now. If I had the cash to buy Intel I would most probably get a 3770k and clock it hard. But even Ivy wasn't a significant upgrade to Sandy, they just shrunk the die and brought down the power consumption.
Intel are moving away from desktop PCs in a way. There's no future in it for them, they need to get to new pastures. Thus they probably didn't care how badly Haswell CPUs overclock. Didn't stop them still charging the enthusiast for it, though.
As desktop sales slump more and more Intel need to find a new niche to belong to. AMD have pretty much sewn up anything even so much as resembling a game now and once Mantle is alive and well there will be absolutely no reason to buy hardware for gaming from any other vendor.
It's probably nearer 4.4Ghz Haswell equating to 4.8Ghz Sandy.
If you are within the DSR then return it for whatever reason you want, the IHS is the wrong colour etc. Though I suspect the OP hasn't done quite enough leg work to know how to properly overclock Haswell before concluding that is all the chip is capable of.
It's probably nearer 4.4Ghz Haswell equating to 4.8Ghz Sandy.
If you are within the DSR then return it for whatever reason you want, the IHS is the wrong colour etc. Though I suspect the OP hasn't done quite enough leg work to know how to properly overclock Haswell before concluding that is all the chip is capable of.
from what ive seen with benchmarks its roughly 300mhz with each gen
ivy 300mhz over sandy and haswell 300mhz over ivy ect