MOT help

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So my MOT runs out this weekend, but I know it's going to fail due to the ESP light being permanently on, which is down to ABS pump fault. I've bought the part, but it's not getting fixed until the 27th.

Is it just simple as I can't drive the car once the MOT has expired? Or can I get it tested and have X amount of days to get it fixed but continue to be able to drive?
 
AFAIK you can't drive the car without a valid MOT.

People that test early drive around once they have failed as their old certificate is still in date.
 
If you need the car then just carry on driving it, you'll only get a fine at worst. Dont get it tested, an expired MOT is explainable, a failed MOT...isnt :p
 
As above, I've known a few forgetful people drive without MOT. Some for months, doing thousands of miles all over the country and never getting pulled. Low risk IMO.
 
Insurance will be invalid with a MOT.

Alex

No it won't

Depends......apologies for wall of text.

It's not a simple yes and no answer as it depends on the circumstances of the accident. Insurers may often state on their websites that having no MOT will invalidate car insurance as it's in their interest to ensure a vehicle is as road worthy as possible to minimise claims. This is often not the case however.


A situation where a driver had an accident, was at fault and caused significant damage to properties will have their vehicle assessed for roadworthiness at the point before the accident. A valid MOT is limited in relevance as a vehicle can of course be unroadworthy even with a valid MOT test certificate. Essentially it's whether the vehicle was roadworthy directly before the accident and is based on evidence obtained by the police and a conclusion reached by the insurance claims assessor. This can also include statements taken from witnesses, engineer reports and other evidence obtained from the claims investigation if necessary.

So as you may imagine, it can get a lot more complicated than simply stating that your insurance is invalid due to no valid MOT. Car insurers also have an obligation to the third parties involved in an accident that was not their fault. It wouldn't be appropriate if insurers refused to pay out simply if the accident was caused by a driver with no valid MOT. Where the lack of a valid MOT may be relevant in an insurance claim is if an accident was the direct consequence of not having a valid MOT. This would need to be established with an engineer's report where the claims assessor may refuse payment or offer a limited payment to the first parties (driver at fault that had the accident with no MOT) vehicle.

More often that not and especially in small claims, whether the vehicle has a valid MOT or not isn't usually a consideration of the insurers and they typically pay out without even questioning the MOT status. It could be argued that if a driver intentionally avoided obtaining a valid MOT for their vehicle and if as a result this action automatically invalidated their insurance policy, then what's the point of taking out the insurance?

The most important aspect of car insurance is to restore the third party (innocent party involved in an accident) and their property back to a state previous to the accident. Therefore the lack of a valid MOT cannot be automatically associated with invalid car insurance and must remain two separate offences in their own right.
 
As above, I've known a few forgetful people drive without MOT. Some for months, doing thousands of miles all over the country and never getting pulled. Low risk IMO.

Trouble is most police cars now have ANPR so it will alert every car you pass that the MOT has lapsed. . . . . Not as there are many police cars on the roads nowadays.
 
Trouble is most police cars now have ANPR so it will alert every car you pass that the MOT has lapsed. . . . . Not as there are many police cars on the roads nowadays.

Perhaps, the reality is they don't though. I don't think the police on board ANPR ping for no MOT anyway, they focus firmly on insurance. I got pulled myself once for no insurance, only after they got me in the car did they find it also showed no tax or mot either, they were only interested in the insurance though.
FWIW I did have insurance and MOT, he let me off on the tax.
 
I'm sure the only time your allowed to drive a car without a MOT is if your taking it to be tested and you must drive straight to the MOT testing station. Why not get a quote from the garage your getting the MOT done at for the repairs, unless of course they are the same garage..........if so could they not do the repair same day as the MOT ?
 
I've driven around with no MOT for quite some time in the past after getting my dates mixed up. I wasn't stopped by the police at any point, and I regularly went through an ANPR check on the north circular at that time.

You can probably get away with having no MOT for a long time. As for whether it's right or not, that's a different matter.....
 
I was under the impression that a car without a valid MOT (failed or expired) could be driven on the public highway in one of two instances:
1) driving to a pre-booked MOT
2) driving to a place of repair (garage)

If I'm wrong, then it's up to you to get the car to the garage for the repair work, either with a recovery truck or other less legal means...
 
Go ahead and drive it without a valid MOT, if you get cought between now and it getting fixed / MOT'd just say its ok as people in these forums said it was ok............i supose they will help you pay your fine too !
No matter how unlikely it is that you will get caught, its illegal to drive without an MOT, simple as that. Drive it , don't drive it, it's up to you to if you want to take the chance.
 
How embarrased would you feel with all them advisories? :p

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Still a pass however.

Driving with no MOT invalidates any insurance cover surely?
 
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