Madeleine McCann's parents

I'd not leave my child in the house alone for one minute. If I needed to pop out I'd take her with me.

It's a pretty depressing story this. I'd rather it be put to rest. It's been long enough.
 
Anyone who says they watch there kids 24 7 is a liar, I don't think they where right leaving her to go to eat something but they wasn't the ones who took her, blame the kidnapper
 
Not commentated on this case for ages but it is rather odd the way things are developing.

According to the papers they now have a name for the suspect.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/390239859647868929/photo/1

The most interesting thing is the original sighting by their friend Jane Tanner has now been ruled out. In fact they have a man who says it was him and after 6 years still has the clothes he wore that night and the child's PJ's!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cent-British-father-mistaken-key-suspect.html

So we are left with the Irish families sighting, the Smith's. The E-fit comes from them but this is were it gets really weird. The Smith's were 60-80% sure when they gave their statement all those years ago that the man carrying the child was no other than Gerry McCann.

The Smith family, from Ireland are returning to their apartment after a night out. As they walk, they pass a man carrying a child in his arms. The man averts his eyes from them to signal that he does not wish to speak.

Four months later, back in Ireland, the Smith family are watching TV. They see the McCanns return to the UK and observe Gerry McCann alight the aeroplane and walk across the tarmac with a sleeping Sean in his arms.

The father, Martin Smith, is shocked. He recognises the walking style and the way the child is being held against the shoulder.

It is exactly like the man he saw on the streets of Praia da Luz, four months earlier.
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http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html

Obviously it is not concrete or am I suggesting they could not be mistaken but it makes you wonder if they are sticking to their original identification or do they now think it was somebody else?
 
itchy said:
Who on this earth leaves a child that young on there own!!!

WHO!!! :mad:
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1000s and 1000s do it without ever thinking what could happen but I hope the numbers have dropped since this case.
When I was younger it was the common thing to do and staff would listen out for children crying and announce it over the microphone in the main club.
When on holiday me and Mrs Dimple always notice the families we see during the day and then see them at night without their kids :(
SOME parents take calculated risks and know that little Johnny sleeps from 7pm until 7am so he'll be OK while they have a drink not that far away.
The next time you go on holiday try and look out for them.
 
Jambo said:
I don't think it's right to leave a 6 year old child alone in a house for 10 minutes. What if there was a fire? What if there was a break in? Etc etc.
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Is it really so much effort to bring your 6 year old with you to the shop?

10 minutes is more than enough for some abductor to get in and out.
 
Dimple said:
1000s and 1000s do it without ever thinking what could happen but I hope the numbers have dropped since this case.
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I really can't imagine it. And when you say calculated risks - that implies some level of thought goes into it. I'd imagine those who have and do do it, concern themselves very little with the inherent risks involved in leaving young children alone. I'd love to understand the decision making process while the risk is 'calculated'. As someone posted earlier, 'tapas/kids, tapas/kids.... tapas'. Apply same level of thought to any other scenario.

Maybe I'm just ultra paranoid, even though I consider myself not to be one of those 'worst case scenario' parents. But the thought of leaving any child alone is irresponsible. Yes, the likelihood of anything serious happening is low - but it's what might happen. I'm not necessarily talking about abduction, but the risk of accident or the emotional stress put upon a child should they find themselves alone.
 
Different times and all that. When I was a kid my parents would take us all off on holiday with their friends and leave us in bed while they enjoyed an evening meal. Back in the '80s this was just normal and I never got abducted. These days it's all Daily Mail "won't somebody think of the children!" hysteria though. Parents are judged harshly for any contravention of whatever child rearing theory is en vogue at the time.

I do find the hate the McCanns get an interesting phenomenon though. No other parents of abducted children are demonised to the same extent as Gerry and Kate despite obviously committing the same cardinal sin of "taking their eyes off their kids, even for a second".
 
To be fair you can be closer and still not be of any use.
Where we went to in Egypt a child drowned in the same pool as its parents because they were at the pool bar getting ****ed and nobody was watching the child...
 
scorza said:
Different times and all that. When I was a kid my parents would take us all off on holiday with their friends and leave us in bed while they enjoyed an evening meal. Back in the '80s this was just normal and I never got abducted. These days it's all Daily Mail "won't somebody think of the children!" hysteria though. Parents are judged harshly for any contravention of whatever child rearing theory is en vogue at the time.
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We often look back with rose tinted glasses. The g'old days were always safer. Summers warmer, times generally happier.
But the reality is they weren't, and as painful as it sounds parents were equally irresponsible then if they left their children alone - I can't recall my parents ever doing it and they weren't Daily Mail readers or over-protective.

As with most things it's subjective. Some people are willing to take a gamble on the safety of their children. Some are more risk averse.
 
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scorza said:
I do find the hate the McCanns get an interesting phenomenon though. No other parents of abducted children are demonised to the same extent as Gerry and Kate despite obviously committing the same cardinal sin of "taking their eyes off their kids, even for a second".
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It wasn't a case of taking their eyes off them for a second though was it?

They are demonised because the majority of people believe it is wrong to leave children unaccompanied in a room on their own, and still to this day they haven't said, ''Yes, it was wholly ridiculous and completely unacceptable what we did''.
 
'by facilitating an incident we increase its likelihood of happening'

this is the rule most parents live by, including myself, even if they don't realise it,

by leaving a small child in a room alone with an open fire, we increase the chances of them falling in it,

parents make this kind of decision a hundred times a day, and I for one, don't 'facilitate' anything, it is my responsibility to my children not to.

the McCanns failed here, not once, but many times,

and as for, back in the day it was the norm to leave the kids in their room etc, its garbage, I spent xmas/new year 1999/2000 in Cyprus, and not once did I leave my 3 year old daughter for 30 seconds, never mind 30 mins.

I believe Gerry McCann did it, his mate Matthew Oldfield helped him cover it up, and Kate was told later, deciding to back her man and keep her mouth shut.

did he do it intentionally? no I don't think so, I think he sedated her and gave her too much, or she had an unusual reaction and died.

'the views expressed here, are my own and are based on the evidence I have seen to date, it remains to be seen in a Court of Law who is guilty of this crime'
 
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