Madeleine McCann's parents

Agree with BuffetSlayer also. Innocent or not of being involved in her 'disappearance', they are to blame for even allowing the situation to come to pass and any good parent will not be giving them the benefit of the doubt for buggering off to have dinner with friends while leaving there children unattended in a foreign country.

As for the rest of it. You can spin it whatever way you want. Maybe they're keeping it going because they're responsible and figure that at this point nobody is going to have anything reliable to add to the investigation. Maybe they're keeping it going because they feel guilty and are desperately holding onto hope.

The whole thing is a big maybe and honestly, you can't help but feel sorry for the other children. Just how badly is this effecting them? The parents should have moved on long ago to concentrate on the family they still have. Those facefits and the 'expected appearance' of Madeline are a farce.
 
BuffetSlayer said:
They are guilty. Of negligence.

To try and say they are completely innocent in the death/kidnap/disappearance (delete as applicable) of their daughter is ridiculous.

They left three very young children on their own, at night, in an unfamiliar environment with a body of water nearby and a shed load of strangers from all over the world in the local vicinity, not to mention the chance of criminals perpetrating burglary/muggings. All so they could go off in the evenings without the 'inconvenience' of their own children. Yet people think the parents are the innocent victims? Seriously? As someone else has mentioned, if this had been Wayne and Waynetta from a council estate - they would have been torn apart by the media and authorities alike. I think it is no accident that the spotlight has been taken off the parents negligence because they have the money and influence to spin the media machine in their favour.

In my opinion, it was the McCann's negligence that facilitated whatever happened to their daughter, and whether they were actually physically involved with her death/abduction/disappearance or not does not extinguish their own guilt based on the involvement we know they had from the facts thus far available.

Are they guilty of her kidnap or murder? Maybe not. But they are guilty and a person does not need a tin foil hat to see that blatant truth.
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Hit the nail on the head there I think, sir!
 
Sliver said:
Meh. I disagree. Play the blame game all you want. They ARE victims even if through their own bad parenting on that night. I can think of nothing worse than losing a child, except maybe losing a child and knowing that it was partly your negligence too. I pity them. I know that they would do anything to turn back the clock but they can't. The last thing they need are armchair detectives throwing muck at them.

My 2 cents. Spend it wisely. ;)
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Fine then we agree to disagree, but accusing people of being foil hat wearing conspiracists because they dare to lay some of the blame at the feet of the parents or actually suspect they may be involved in some way is neglecting possibilities that are actually just as viable as the parents complete innocence.

Your stance seems to be they are parents right? Because of this, they would not do anything to harm their precious child? :)

Unfortunately, the figures regarding previous crimes do not support that stance. Seeing as the known facts about this particular case are thin on the ground, surely the likelyhood of the parents being involved statistically moves to what the majority of similar cases have found?

IE parents/family were likely involved. Of course, that is not definite, but dismissing it out of hand does seem a little short sighted, in my opinion - particulalry when statistically it is more of a valid opinion than believing they are completely innocent ;)
 
The whole story is very peculiar, I just can't make my mind up as to whether I think the parents might know more than they are letting on.

I'm not sure what the story behind this is, but Kate McCann seemingy refused to answer a series of questions put to her by the Portugese authorities:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7542939.stm

I haven't done any further reading about it, but it just seems like a fairly bizarre decision to choose not to answer if you would like to help the case move along. She was a suspect at the time, so that might have something to do with it, but reading the questions it's quite chilling to imagine the possibility that they know more than they are letting on.

To be honest I'm not sure how useful the reconstruction was. I can barely remember people I met last year, let alone things I glanced at in passing 6 years ago.

EDIT: Note that I don't have an opinion either way as the info is so ambiguous. It's just intriguing that if the truth comes out it will either be a horrible abduction crime perpetrated by a stranger or one of the biggest coverups / legal scandals of the last 50 years. The press and the internet will implode if the latter is true.
 
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AndyT said:
I'm not sure what the story behind this is, but Kate McCann seemingy refused to answer a series of questions put to her by the Portugese authorities:.
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Did she have legal advice present that she felt comfortable with of her own choice etc?
Were those questions asked by someone with a good standard of English or was an interpreter present etc?

That may not be as significant as it seems if those conditions aren't met.
 
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AndyT said:
I'm not sure what the story behind this is, but Kate McCann seemingy refused to answer a series of questions put to her by the Portugese authorities:
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I'd imagine she was advised by her lawyer to not answer any questions probably on the basis that they were looking to pin it on her. There are some questions that you would think she would still answer but i'm guessing it was her legal advice.
 
Pretty sure, even as a hardened man, my first reaction to police telling me that the scent of death had been found in the room would be to weep uncontrollably, not say "dogs are unreliable"....
 
Django x2 said:
Pretty sure, even as a hardened man, my first reaction to police telling me that the scent of death had been found in the room would be to weep uncontrollably, not say "dogs are unreliable"....
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Could be denial borne of shock to be fair. IE "dogs are unreliable, it does not mean she is dead - she is alive!"

Not saying it is, but it could be just inability to accept or comprehend a possible truth.
 
BuffetSlayer said:
Fine then we agree to disagree, but accusing people of being foil hat wearing conspiracists because they dare to lay some of the blame at the feet of the parents or actually suspect they may be involved in some way is neglecting possibilities that are actually just as viable as the parents complete innocence.

Your stance seems to be they are parents right? Because of this, they would not do anything to harm their precious child? :)

Unfortunately, the figures regarding previous crimes do not support that stance. Seeing as the known facts about this particular case are thin on the ground, surely the likelyhood of the parents being involved statistically moves to what the majority of similar cases have found?

IE parents/family were likely involved. Of course, that is not definite, but dismissing it out of hand does seem a little short sighted, in my opinion - particulalry when statistically it is more of a valid opinion than believing they are completely innocent ;)
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Blah blah. Statistics can be used to say anything you want. Evidence is what counts and you and your tinfoil club have none really do you ? Ridiculous. My stance as you put it is innocent till proven guilty. Sound familiar ? It should because that is how Western societies evaluate truth claims.
 
Xordium said:
No evidence for the assertion it was some mystery person who took her either but hey let's ignore that part.
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There is insufficient evidence to blame ANYONE at this point in time. That is my view. A view shared by law enforcement too, otherwise we would have a suspect/s on trial wouldn't we ? :rolleyes:
 
Seems like this part of the internet has taken a turn for the surreal. If only I had access to this esoteric well of truth. I may return with a colander on my head, just to level the playing field. ;)
 
I have said it before i will say it again..

They are ODD
they are ££££
THEY DID IT OR ARE INVOLVED IN IT

the truth will come out....

this massive WORLD awareness/publicity people just dont VANISH into thin air...
 
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