Do you enjoy the corporate environment?

Having worked in a public sector and private sector org of similar size, I can say that I much prefer the "get it done" approach of the private sector over the endless faffing that is public sector working.

In my experience, nobody anywhere in the public sector wants to stand up and be counted or be an "agent of change" - everyone is content to maintain the status quo and maybe quietly build an empire.
 
You get micromanagement a little everywhere unfortunately. You just have to roll the with the punches, or if you get good enough at spotting it, pre-empt the management requests by having the work done in such a way that you’re not disturbed – unfortunately this doesn’t always stop them from feeling obliged to tell you how to do things and what to do.

I enjoy the atmosphere and relaxed nature of a smaller more "family" oriented company, it's more relaxed and you get to make a bigger difference.

However, conversely, I also enjoy the corporate world in terms of development (both personal and professional) and the skills you're able to learn as a result of your immersion in that corporate lifestyle. It's not always good, and it depends on your mantle and how independent and confident you are as to how you react or cope with that sort of environment.

I have worked in very poisonous and soul destroying/draining heavily bureaucratic corporate environments which are stifling and you feel very much as a tiny cog in a big wheel. It does depend on your position, I think in a SME you’re less likely to end up in that sort of atmosphere.

A bank I can imagine has a lot of egos running around – whereas project management/consultancy practices are more collaborative (from experience). I can pretend to be part of the “gang” and muck in when I have to and socialise and behave the way others do, but without losing my sense of identity, or I just stand apart – it just depends on the situation and what I’m trying to achieve.

However, micromanagement is frustrating – which is probably what you’re experiencing.
 
I would plough my assistant Directors face so bad UFFFF.

I hate corporate though its all politics. Also a lot of backdoor politics and managment groupies. People being managed out when others decide they dont want certain people in the role or roles they are in.

Its all very shady.
 
I'm in corporate finance but am fortunate with the company I'm in that I can run my area as I see fit and hire those I want.

I used to work for the well known US credit card company and my goodness it's as if management (at every level) took a pill on the day they started the job that made them spout Americanisms in every sentence and act like total arses. We used to have to have a weekly conference call with all the regional offices to report on all the updates....... boredom to a new level! Funny thing was when the managers were away on a 'bonding' course (goodness knows!) I kept the conference phone on mute and someone popped out and got cakes and nibbles and we just had a chat about things - most constructive meeting in 4 years!

Career corporate manager types do annoy me somewhat, the ones that have never done the job but tell you how to do yours anyway. More than once I had to walk out of meetings as I genuinely thought I was going to hit someone.

I don't think I could handle working in a cut-throat corporate institution again... steals a part of your soul.
 
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Are these people working in compliance, risk or security perchance?

Post-it notes on walls, wasted time in pointless meetings and 'weedy little men' doing lots of back stabbing... sounds more like IT tbh... Presumably they claim to be 'Agile' too...

I think the general advice, if you're a maths/IT type considering working for a bank, make sure you're not under the IT headcount but are working directly for a desk...
 
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Today at The Very Big Corporation of America we will be having meetings on: 'What business shall we absorb today?', 'The Shareholders are not happy, we need to cut back.' and 'We need to take over the world, any thoughts?'.
 
I've worked in various industries doing IT and my least favourite was an investment bank. The best was a non profit private regulatory agency and a property firm.

But corporate environments in general are not that great, too much politics and non sense. I would like to work for one of these organisations that are more open like valve or google, but i bet they get a bit much sometimes. Too much enthusiasm can annoy me.
 
Post-it notes on walls, wasted time in pointless meetings and 'weedy little men' doing lots of back stabbing... sounds more like IT tbh... Presumably they claim to be 'Agile' too...
If I hear the word agile, scrum or sprint one more time....

Depending on the size of the business you might find that different sub units have a very different culture so sometimes a move to another team sorts out your issues.

Got moved to a different team on another floor for a different part of the project - the contrast in politics, back stabbing and team meetings are incredible. There's still a load of pointlessness but nowhere near as much and the team is fairly laid back.
 
I quite like the corporate environment. I work for a fairly large professional services / consultancy firm and I'd say that 90% of the people I've met are perfectly nice and there's very little dead wood.

Much better than pharma-manufacturing where 50% of the staff were nob-ends and there was more dead wood than a timber yard.
 
I miss working in General Motors to be hoenst with you... the factory floor we didn't half have some banter. What I don't miss is the management treating me very very badly, IT being taken for granted, and all of the poop being on the toilet wall and not in the toilets!

Stelly
 
I hate it. I've worked for big companies and small ones. All of them are the same with the same blame culture.

I'm taking steps to remove myself from it soon.
 
Much better than pharma-manufacturing where 50% of the staff were nob-ends and there was more dead wood than a timber yard.


I think my wife would whole heartedly agree with that, she's pretty much got the hump with her pharma career, working at GSK, Astrazeneca and the like.
 
I enjoy the atmosphere and relaxed nature of a smaller more "family" oriented company, it's more relaxed and you get to make a bigger difference.

Do you not find you get more power-hungry, interfering types in family companies though? You know the type, people who have been there since day one and have no idea how to function as the place gets bigger and their role has to change, but they won't let it? Those are the worst types. I find it happens much less in larger companies.
 
I always put my name at the top of my review feedback for people, and I'm always honest.

Straight Talking :)

Done that, ended up painting a target on my back by doing it.

Would do it again though, it's good to know the companies that hate their staff so you can leave.
 
I worked for EDS from 2000 and HP from 2007. EDS were ok - typical Amerrican company though but they kept the best bits of the public sector agency they took over (ITSA) and changed the bits that didn't work.

HP were a different league - utterly devoid of any kind of ethics and the kind of people they promoted into managerial positions - bleurgh! Hated the last two years and quit last July - best decision of my life.
 
Done that, ended up painting a target on my back by doing it.

Would do it again though, it's good to know the companies that hate their staff so you can leave.

I think that is one of the issue with trying to improve your working environment. Where you may be the only one to complain, either the others don't care or are blind, makes you the target.

I've worked in the private & public sector and they are both as bad as each other, but the difference between departments is massive. Currently in a public sector role which started on 1st Line Support was great until they moved the Service Desk into 'Customer Services' from ISS.

After 2 years of service I got a secondment (with scope to go perm) which is the complete opposite. Still in Customer Services but under Operations, I manage my own time, project and I'm currently a 1 man team.

I digress.....yes, it's not great and the individuals still working on the SD are not happy. Heavy workload and mediocre pay for too much hastle but anything short of getting on with it can cost you your job!
 
You might find its not a specific sector is to blame, thats why many are saying other industries are involved.

Ive found its a "big company" thing. Any company with more than a couple hundred employees tends to get this ive found .. :-/
 
Real world is no different than online games.

When you start out you learn, after a couple of months or less you realize that everyone is really a noob.

Just got to live with it
 
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