Yes, let's all go and live in caves. Great idea.
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Yes, let's all go and live in caves. Great idea.
I never said that but at least you do not argue my point about workers who canot afford thier own homes.The banks have to create money out of your deposit and everyone else's deposits to actually give out money for a mortgage.Or do people actually think the banks hold all this in cash reserves?
Ponzi scheme! Paying interest on a debt generated or printed off the back of your deposit?
And i never said live in a cave although for those who think its absurd to pay all thier lifes into a home they will only own once near death can look into smaller homes and DIY houses.Ever heard of the small house movement? There are tons of places and nooks and crannys where people can build small affordable homes by using the land in creative ways.The housing bubble and city location demanded by most employers probably adds on 60% on the value of a houses for a lot of people.
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I'm on JSA at the moment, it's nothing to be proud of nor is it anything to be ashamed of I know I've not been given even close to what I've paid in tax beforehand. I can just about afford food, let alone sky and all the likes. I pay for my phone bill, food and travel all things I need to actually get work and survive these people with stupid amounts of benefits should get a reality check.
But we all know it's going to be the norm, which it already is really. Single slutty parent with 18 kids on benefits who should be given tokens for what their kids need and that's it, no cash handouts. then things would get better.
But we all know it's going to be the norm, which it already is really. Single slutty parent with 18 kids on benefits who should be given tokens for what their kids need and that's it, no cash handouts. then things would get better.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24553611
I guess Benefits are to blame for this as well then.More like the huge amount of immigrants everyone tell's us we should be happy to accept and a failing monetary system.
Note how the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets leads the way at 41% with Islington and Newham second and third.Are those not the big bastions of the glorious multiculturalism around London?
I guess Benefits are to blame for this as well then.More like the huge amount of immigrants everyone tell's us we should be happy to accept and a failing monetary system.
Note how the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets leads the way at 41% with Islington and Newham second and third.Are those not the big bastions of the glorious multiculturalism around London?
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What a suprise, the poverty industries meaningless measurement of poverty (which is actually a measure of income inequality and nothing to do with poverty) suggests that more investment in the poverty industry is required.
How much material poverty do we have in the uk that doesn't relate to poor spending choices?
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Am I being stupid or can you no longer watch this online?!
How far can £70 really go when leccy works out at £20 a week at least? I do not count £1 horse burgers as food either.Proper food, basic stuff is quite expensive unless it has been glued with a bunch of chemicals and is designed to be microwaved.
Those people getting sky are obviously pulling a shifty one as i dont know how they do it.Put it like this, since i was sick a few years ago without my rents i would not be able to heat a two bed home.I cannot even afford oil to be honest unless is it in smaller more expensive jugs so i rely on electric and electric blankets.
I dont drink alcohol and i rarely smoke no sky either.
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During, the cap is discussed and the affects on the people shown midway through the programme.
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It doesn't appear to be on YouTube either. Annoying!
Proper food is expensive? Like fruit and veg? Pasta, rice, bread, potatoes, milk, cereal? You don't require meat for every meal....
Yet it seems every council estate has its fair share of women with what can only be described as 'dinner lady' physiques... if food is so expensive then why are they eating such an excess of it when supposedly being so 'poor'?
It was more towards the end, and apparently the woman with 11 kids is exempt because one of her children looked like a product of incest.
Bring back unionization, force firms to pay a fair wage instead of boosting their profit figures by driving their workforce harder and paying them less, solve many problems. Firms should earn their profit increases, not take them.
Precisely why I'm a union man, always have been, you either look out for employee rights or you look out for shareholders greed.
The reason my grandfather was able to buy a 3 bed house on a job he got in a factory, is that the factories paid a fair wage to their employees. You might have been working 50-60 hours a week but at least it was a job for life (or it was until Thatcher ****ed everything up) and you could make a steady living off of it.
Since our government allowed industry to be replaced by crappy service jobs with increasingly worse pay it's become a distant memory that if you were prepared to graft hard for 40-50 years you could make a steady living and then have a steady retirement.
Dear Dr. Brown. On the night that I go back in time, you will be shot by terrorists. Please take whatever precautions are necessary to prevent this terrible disaster. Your friend, Marty.
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Ask the staff at grangemouth refinery what their union is doing for them at the moment...
In fact, you can also ask former miners, steelworkers, car plant workers in the midlands and a whole host of other people what happens when wages are driven up by industrial action...
You do also realise that Thatcher had the support of the nation when she crushed the blackmailers?
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No the reason your grandad could buy a 3 bed house was because houses were cheaper in relation to wages. It wasn't that wages were higher.
There was also far, far less stuff that one could have and what society said you should have. When my parents (now both retired) bought their house it was £30,000 (which was about 5 times my dad's annual salary), yet they sold it 20 years later for £250,000 (over 10 times what my dad was earning by that time from the same job).
They didn't have a foreign holiday until they mid 90s, the vast majority of their lives was a yearly trip to Bognor and that was it. They had one TV and the rest of their money went on food and clothes. Now they have a TV in every room, a couple of computers, an e-reader, a car each, several pets, various insurance plans, internet bills, online subscriptions to various services etc.
But like you the harp on about the pre-Thaterchite era not even seeing themselves how much simpler and less stuff you were expected to buy/own was back then.
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The term poverty has multiple meanings, with absolute being a fundamental lack of basics & the relative being when compared to the standard.
But don't let your political bias shroud the reality of the two meanings on my account.
Apologies that the facts of the matter seem to indicate that both metrics have meaning & an impact on society, it would be highly idiotic to suggest that extreme differences in material wealth would have no impact of society (as why of all things would this not impact on society? - as it's how we reward work done & how many establish self-esteem, no to mention in reality pretty much everything impacts on society).
The term poverty has multiple meanings, with absolute being a fundamental lack of basics & the relative being when compared to the standard.
But don't let your political bias shroud the reality of the two meanings on my account.
Apologies that the facts of the matter seem to indicate that both metrics have meaning & an impact on society, it would be highly idiotic to suggest that extreme differences in material wealth would have no impact of society (as why of all things would this not impact on society? - as it's how we reward work done & how many establish self-esteem, no to mention in reality pretty much everything impacts on society).
Much of the evidence depends on whether you agree with the cherry picking in the spirit level though. We have been through this before, I consider the report dishonest and discredited as when you include all similar countries, the correlation goes away.
We should at least be honest and not refer to relative poverty in full to make it clear and prevent any unwarrented emotional responses to an emotive word.