Racist Man admits murder and mosque blasts

Good to see the man being sent down, but for God's sake, Islam isn't a race. Not having a dig at you guys, it was aimed at the murderer for playing the race card.

Islam isn't a race, but it's understandable as to why people call it one. For all intents and purposes, it is in the context of most people would assume a Muslim is of a specific race, ie, middle eastern or Indian/Pakistani.

It's in the same way that people who moan about immigration claim not to be racist, but 9 times out of 10, the method they use to determine whether a person is an immigrant or not, is skin colour. There will be white immigrants that they don't know are immigrants unless they speak to them and realise they don't have a British accent.

I wouldn't expect you to see it from this perspective though, as you are quite ignorant and seem to miss quite a few things. Like that time you thought some guy had a chinese wife called "Fyi" when he was in fact saying "FYI" (for your info).
 
I'd wager the confusion over the scientific 'Adam' & 'Eve' genetic baselines is the assumption we found a couple.

If I recall correctly, we simply found one man & one women we are all related to - who existed many thousands of years apart, the significance being we are all related if you go back far enough (I believe).

We all started off the same colour, we split up & changed to suit the different environments, now we are all mixing again due to transportation - meaning eventually we may go back to being one 'race' which let's face it isn't a big deal as we are already one species.
 
Are people actually claiming the reason (given by the murderer) is irrelevant?
How is it not?

R.I.P Mr Saleem.

How odd he didn't find a 25 year old to attack, I suppose an 82 year old is fair game then? :(
 
How odd he didn't find a 25 year old to attack, I suppose an 82 year old is fair game then? :(

If he'd killed some foaming-mouth extremist Imam, then this would have made a bit more sense. What sort of low life must you be to think an 82 year old deserves this? :mad:
 
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i Wonder where all the calls for 'his kind' to denounce his crimes are?
i Wonder what religion he was?
i Wonder what background his parents and family have?
i Wonder what his mates do where he comes from.......etc


Oh yes, He's not a muslim so the mainstream media ain't interested in 'sensational headlining' this guy as a bad representative of his 'kind'....... ;)

Nothing to see here - move on...
 
Pretty sure it is what you wanted anyway, what with this line in your OP:

LOL and hes not wrong, he makes a very good point...had it been the other way round, all hell would have broken loose in here with the usual retards making their xenophobic/racist views known.

But hey its ok to bash the muslims isnt it??...
 
Would you rather everyone bent over and let the whole Muslim world into Europe? Should we all put our Kuffar heads on a choping block, fly the crescent moon over 10 downing street and call it a day?


Should we open the doors to changing Europe forever while leaving Asia and Africa alone? And when little men on the street get mad we will call it Racism and hide the motive from the public? Face it the truth was never told in the article which is that there is a mass movement of Anti Islamic sentiment inside Europe.I am proud to be part of it as everyone single one of them is an enemy of free speech,democracy and all the western values that made us great.


At least i can talk about the huge Islamic Elephant in the room.

I suggest you (and everyone else here) look whats happening in South Woodford, there are no Muslims in the area and yet they want to build a huge Mosque bang in the middle of a white middle-class neighborhood. Planning permission will be granted because if they don't then they'll get all violent and intimate the local populous. Every Friday they just flood in from surrounding areas and cause chaos on the roads. Everyone here is sick of it, whats wrong with building one in Stratford or Whitechapel where they come from?
 
You do realise the word "race" isn't just for ethnicity?

Yes Islam on it's own is a religion, but the word "race" can actually be used to describe the collective people of Islam or the "ummah". Remember the word race means a group of humans with a particular commonality, it's not just limited to geographic or ethnic. There are over a billion Muslims, therefore, sorry, but people of Islam are a race.

Here read that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification)

It's such a common misconception. One which never fails to make me facepalm. Yes everyone knows Islam is a religion, but doesn't mean the collective people of Islam cannot be defined as race.

Ok here's one for you, what word do you use to describe the people of Islam as a collective?

Muslamics? :D

So hospitals are institutionally racist then? They only hire nurses and doctors. Two "groups of humans with a particular commonality"... Your profession is a choice, same with your religion.

How about students?
 
Planning permission will be granted because if they don't then they'll get all violent and intimate the local populous.

Surely it has to go out for consultation, so if enough people object and write to the local MP, there's every chance it'll get thrown out. If the local MP thinks they might lose their seat over it, chances are they'll get involved.

Planning permission for an international church organisation's application got thrown out in the next town to me because it was in the middle of a residential neighbourhood and would cause too much disruption/noise etc. Also, a change of purpose request (to house of worship) for a building around the corner from me got rejected for the same reasons. Why some of these organisations insist on trying to open up new premises instead of using existing facilities is beyond me.
 
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Racist? Please stop using Racism to throw around.For the last time Muslims are not a race and this was a case of Anti Muslim crime.It was not a racially motivated attack and Muslims are not a race so please shut the hell up about racism and discuss the real problem here.Anders Breivik and this man share the exact same issues.

Muslims immigration and a bunch of leftist wacko birds letting in everyone and killing off our culture in the west.I condemn what this man did but you must also condem the cause which is why was that Muslim man inside the Ukraine? How many Ukranians live in Muslim area's? What did the Ukraine ever do or Bulgaria to Islam? Face it Ukraine and Bulgaria are hot spots for Anti Islamic crime and who can blame them after living through Ottoman rule and brutality where each first born child was taken aged 9 and converted to Islam and made a Janissary in the Army to fight for Islam?


Now in 2013 the EU even after the fall of the Ottomans are again forcing Muslims on Bulgaria and Ukraine.Stop the White Genocide of Europe through mixed marriages and immigration and the hate crimes might stop.Sadly this is going to become more and more common.First we had the small scale Breivik shooting that no one really knew the motives for due to the BBC propaganda not revealing the mess sweden was in.Now we have Lee Rigby dead and the EDL and movements in France and Bulgaria too.Stop Islamic immigration, stop trying to alter Europe and there will not be any problems.And next time a British man dies on British streets do something about it and protest.But as usual the only time you see a Muzzie like Asim make a thread is when something bad happens to Muslims.



Asim how about you create a thread on the Genocide of Coptics by Muslims in Egypt? Two little girls aged 8 and 12 shot by Muslims for being Christian and priests beheaded???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/103...ooting-kills-four-members-of-same-family.html

You know, most of those exact same arguments are used by countries like Saudi Arabia and hardliners Iran. The west destroying their culture and genocide of Arabs/persians...

Alternatively neither side is winning* just cultures are merging together as the world is getting "smaller".

*arguably the west is winning, our culture has been exported in the past and currently far more than other cultures are changing the west. Don't let that point get in the way of your racist/xenophobic rant though.
 
Everything from this poster is a pure laugh-fest, but I'd like to pick up on this gem in particular.

First we had the small scale Breivik shooting that no one really knew the motives for due to the BBC propaganda not revealing the mess sweden was in.

I'll just leave that there to sink in.

Rofflay, your entire argument for preserving a % make up of white people in each country seems to centre on you getting to pick the year where the % was to your liking, leading to your bizarre views on colonies. There is no such thing as a 'native' population because if you go back a few years it was a completely different set of people. America wasn't a white baptist nation at any point in its history. The hispanic population settled towards the south earlier than the 'whites'. But seeing as you're a fan of not ignoring the elephant in the room, there were natives there before anyone else arrived.
 
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Surely it has to go out for consultation, so if enough people object and write to the local MP, there's every chance it'll get thrown out. If the local MP thinks they might lose their seat over it, chances are they'll get involved.

Planning permission for an international church organisation's application got thrown out in the next town to me because it was in the middle of a residential neighbourhood and would cause too much disruption/noise etc. Also, a change of purpose request (to house of worship) for a building around the corner from me got rejected for the same reasons. Why some of these organisations insist on trying to open up new premises instead of using existing facilities is beyond me.

You think that would be the case right? consultation for the current planning permission has just closed and there's about 50+ replies with 49 against and 1 for.

Last time it was permission to increase the number of people in the current 'community center' (yeah right!) from 40 to 250. It was first refused then they went to the high court to get over turned, judges that don't live anywhere near the area making decisions for us. We couldn't fight it because lawyers wanted in excess of £80k to fight it.

When there was a town hall meeting the people from the 'community center' (yeah right!) used intimidation tactics such as filming everyone in the meeting who spoke out against the plan and the whole thing finishing in violence when no one was supporting it. But low and behold they still got there way in the end.
 
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Alternatively neither side is winning* just cultures are merging together as the world is getting "smaller".
Tbh that's what I think the crux of the matter is.

It's a natural process for groups to mix if the natural population barriers erode (historically mountains, rivers & the oceans).
 
You think that would be the case right? consultation for the current planning permission has just closed and there's about 50+ replies with 49 against and 1 for.

50 is a pretty pitiful number of responses in the grand scheme of things, however I've seen refusals around my way done just off the back of a handful of objections.

When there was a town hall meeting they people from the 'community center' (yeah right!) used intimidation tactics such as filming everyone in the meeting who spoke out against the plan and the whole thing finishing in violence when no one was supporting it. But low and behold they still got there way in the end.

:eek: I'd have been going to the papers and definitely getting people to pressure the local MP. In fact, it's not too late to get them on board. All those objecting should be writing in - it's easy these days...

https://www.writetothem.com/

Hrm, does make me wonder if things would have been different if the application round the road from me was to turn it into a mosque rather than an evangelical church! Some organisations are somewhat more "assertive", shall we say, when it comes to getting what they want. I still think any religious building in a residential area is a pain in the rectum anyhow, it makes parking a nightmare at busy times for starters.
 
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To be fair mate Africa has no European immigration nor does China or most other countries.Have you looked at places like sweden with Malmo 25% immigrants and crime and rape spree's? We would not have an arguement if Europe was not the only place being invaded by hordes of outsiders.It is not fair and eventually it willBaptists Europe to 50% white 50% black.Meanwhile Africa will be 99% black and Asia 99% Asian.Is this suddenly racism now to not want bloodless genocide on your own continent?It is hardly Dr Evil style world domination or genocide we are talking about here.It is simply uncontrolled immigration i am not going to feel bad about it or give into the media brainwashing that i am an evil racist because i know i am not.
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Ever heard of those unknown places called South Africa, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Australia, Hong Kong, America, Canada, Mexico, Brazil (and all the south American countries)... No, no white man has ever emigrated to Africa, South America or Asia...

The west certainly hasn't orchestrated wholesale state interference in the east, certainly not trying to change their culture by underhand and military means. Israel doesn't exist, the Iranian coup of 1979 didn't happen, nor did the two Iraqi wars or the invasion of Afghanistan... Nor is the US bombing Yemen and Pakistan (and other Muslim dominated countries) without any international oversight...

But no, it's those dirty Muslims forcing their culture on the west, killing us all!!!

Do you through all of your ignorance actually want Europe to be only 50% whites? Do you subscribe to this insane marxist multicultural hell then? Because personally i take it as genocide and an affront on everyone in Europe and her thousand year culture beginning from Gaelic tribes up until present day.That will all be lost once immigration reaches levels above 25% and meanwhile Africa and Asia will always keep thier culture alive and thier demographics will always be the same.Europe and America are the only two places at risk of this in the modern world.And both are or used to be white majority countries hence why white genocide has actually appeared on the internet forums.

When you say Europe are you including southern and eastern Europe? The likes of southern Spain and Italy were controlled by Arabs far longer than "whites", are you including them and turkey into your 50% white Europe calculation? Those Moorish Arabs are the worst in southern Spain, they've only been there a couple of thousand years!!

I am trying to show you how quickly immigration can change the demographics of a nation.America used to be a white baptist nation until immigration started with black slavery.Regardless of how it came to be white it is only about the numbers and speed of immigration.By 2043 America will be a white minority nation.

Was that before or after the white baptists swarmed in and murdered/forced a change in culture of the native Americans?
 
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Why are some of you giving this guy the time of day? They shut up back to their cubicles once left ignored.

A rational debate is excellent but it involves both opposing parties having the intelligence to understand both sides of the fence. The moment that doesn't happen you get conflict.

As someone else put it elsewhere, full retard mode.
 
50 is a pretty pitiful number of responses in the grand scheme of things, however I've seen refusals around my way done just off the back of a handful of objections.



:eek: I'd have been going to the papers and definitely getting people to pressure the local MP. In fact, it's not too late to get them on board. All those objecting should be writing in - it's easy these days...

https://www.writetothem.com/

Hrm, does make me wonder if things would have been different if the application round the road from me was to turn it into a mosque rather than an evangelical church! Some organisations are somewhat more "assertive", shall we say, when it comes to getting what they want. I still think any religious building in a residential area is a pain in the rectum anyhow, it makes parking a nightmare at busy times for starters.

What they want to build is a complete monstrosity



Fine if there was a substantial Muslim population here but there's not. Not a single Muslim person is living in any of the adjacent streets. They have also been lying about how much they have been doing for the local community. They just turn up in droves for prayer time and then disappear again. And yet there proposal is full of stuff they supposedly done for the local roads. Which they have done nothing.

Yes i think the is a difference because the Muslim population are very quick to pull out the race card when they don't get what they want. And MP's and Councillors what to be as far away as possible from those allegations, especially when there are elections a couple of years down the line
 
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