Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [9 - 10th November 2013]

Johnson adds so much for us. He's so much better than when he started at the club.

Edit: Lovely ball Hendo!

Hah, Suarez's reaction to that miss was fantastic!
 
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Note to self: in the unlikely event that you succeed Marin Jol as Fulham manager, do not put Senderos and Keiran Richardson in the same defence.
 
Pocahontas has done a ridiculously good job at that club. Thought the sacking of Adkins was one of the worst decisions we've seen in the Premiership but doubt they would be as high as they are with him still in charge.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Pocahontas has done a ridiculously good job at that club. Thought the sacking of Adkins was one of the worst decisions we've seen in the Premiership but doubt they would be as high as they are with him still in charge.
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Yep, definitely.

When he was appointed, I was like "Pottychins who?"

However, 17 years ago, I was like "Arsene who?!" And we all know how that turned out.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Pocahontas has done a ridiculously good job at that club. Thought the sacking of Adkins was one of the worst decisions we've seen in the Premiership but doubt they would be as high as they are with him still in charge.
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Was gonna say pretty much the same thing. Thought they were totally wrong to sack Atkins but hands up they've moved onto a level they wouldn't have reached under him imo.

About time he learnt the lingo though, he's been here a year now :p
 
I don't know enough about Southampton under Adkins, did he inherit the entire team or majority, did a lot of them come through the youth and he was a bit lucky or did he buy up most of the guys there, anyone know?

Either way their defensive record was turned around last year, they haven't conceded more than 1 goal in a game except once in the past 21 league games well into last year. With Lovrens added it's been even better, and he was an exceptional buy.

It seems to me that Adkins either bought or inherited some real quality players and had a bunch of young players coming through like Shaw, but Pocahontas very very quickly established a system with the same players that worked significantly better, almost an embarrassing (for Adkins) turn around in defense. Southampton looked like a half team under Adkins, could attack and have sporadically brilliant games going forward but defensively were atrocious. Now they seem like a much more complete team. In games where the oppositions defense is great then they can fall back on their own now solid defense to still get points more often than not.

Not an entirely fair comparison to make but, 29 conceded and 5 points in the first 11 games under Adkins, a slightly more battle hardened team this year but they have conceded 5, and have 21 points in the same 11 games this year. A pretty astonishing turn around by any standards. Not least considering 4 of Adkins 5 points came at home to Villa and Fulham, both shocking last year at that stage.

Adkins got 22 points in total last year in 22 games, which isn't shockingly awful, but neither is it good. This year by and large the same squad has the same points in half the games and is currently sitting third, above a ridiculously expensive team managed by Mourinho.

I don't think it helped Adkins that his biggest buy was £12mil Ramirez who rarely looked brilliant to say the least. he often looked useless and at his best barely seemed like he was worth 12mil. it's not like Osvaldo for a similar fee has been stellar, though the results have been, Wanyama for again a similar fee has been great overall and Lovrens for £8mil has been absolutely fantastic.
 
mmj_uk said:
I've said it before but they should introduce challenges for disallowed goals and penalties etc. considering the amount of money they've wasted on goal line technology which is rarely an issue, it's a bit of a joke that massive key decisions like these are still being made incorrectly on a weekly basis.
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It is and always was a big smoke screen, make a massive deal out of goal line tech rather than push for full on replays for every major decision.

Again if the managers had 2 challenges or whatever per game, the manager would have called a challenge and the ref, hopefully not wanting to be fired for incompetence would have seen both it wasn't a foul even if Ramires wasn't on his way down before any contact which was caused only by Ramires flopping over sideways like a ****.

They didn't want to do replays and challenges, so they kept on and on about goal line tech like it would suddenly make the game much fairer.

Incidentally replays would be able to fix about 98% of goal line problems as well as 98% of other problems in the game, almost instantly.

Fifa/FA are all in the pockets of the biggest teams and most influential managers, seeing as more poor decisions go for the bigger teams, I can't imagine there is much pressure to push for such a change :(
 
Andre Marriner had an absolute shocker yesterday, he should be put on gardening leave indefinitely.
Apart from the extremely dubious pen he bottled sending off Long when he elbowed Terry (how is that ever just a yellow?) and missed the blatant foul on Ivanovic in the build up to WBA's 2nd goal.
WBA are a very well organised side and you can see why they've got some great results so far this season and this one was a bit hard on them.
Chelsea were pretty dire again, not as bad as v Newcastle but not much better.
Without a few bizarre goals and odd decisions we'd really be in the mire. :(
 
JohnnyG said:
Andre Marriner had an absolute shocker yesterday, he should be put on gardening leave indefinitely.
Apart from the extremely dubious pen he bottled sending off Long when he elbowed Terry (how is that ever just a yellow?) and missed the blatant foul on Ivanovic in the build up to WBA's 2nd goal.
WBA are a very well organised side and you can see why they've got some great results so far this season and this one was a bit hard on them.
Chelsea were pretty dire again, not as bad as v Newcastle but not much better.
Without a few bizarre goals and odd decisions we'd really be in the mire. :(
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His worst decision was not giving the Ivanovic foul. How he or the linesman missed that one was beyond me. Long should have got his marching orders and the penalty was a toss the coin decision. A the end of the day the draw was a fair result. Play was has improved but we are lacking that final finishing thrust at the moment.
 
Early kick of at the lane today. Good job my Mrs read the paper yesterday I thought it was a 12.45 kick off. She told me it was 12pm. She was right as always.

leaving to get there soon
 
Cosimo said:
His worst decision was not giving the Ivanovic foul. How he or the linesman missed that one was beyond me. Long should have got his marching orders and the penalty was a toss the coin decision. A the end of the day the draw was a fair result. Play was has improved but we are lacking that final finishing thrust at the moment.
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We're relying on Ivanovic far too much for attacking, it seems to the safe option when things get crowded in midfield. We just pass it wide to him and he crosses it, badly usually. He's a great defender and on the whole good on the ball but giving it to him slows the game down more often than not. It's not his fault of course as we should be able to create better with the players we have but sometimes they seem reluctant to take a chance.
 
JohnnyG said:
missed the blatant foul on Ivanovic in the build up to WBA's 2nd goal.
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Cosimo said:
His worst decision was not giving the Ivanovic foul. How he or the linesman missed that one was beyond me. d the penalty was a toss the coin decision.
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Sometimes wonder if we all watch the same games on a weekend:confused:

It was never a pen in amillion years never mind a toss of a coin, the "foul" was more like a toss of a coin it was a coming together nothing more nothing less.

I think sometimes people forget football is a contact sport:)
 
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