Should Gary Barlow return his OBE?
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Spoken like a true simpleton with no real concept of money.
Barlow is small fry in terms of total wealth compared to many celebrities. Are you genuinely stupid enough to think that when you reach a certain amount of money you just stop caring about it and think "oh sod it, I'll stop looking after it"?
Every time you post you just make yourself sound more and more ignorant. A simple man with a simple outlook on life.
Your point? Why do I need to compare Barlow with other celebs?
At what point does 100 million differ dramatically from 80 million in real terms?
Like 8 p and 10 p
Its relative up to a point.
Ones lifestyle doesn't dramatically change when you have this much money in the bank. That's my point.
If you do not understand this concept of wealth then I can'y help you
I would say the poster Castiel was responding to knew the difference between avoiding tax via intended deductions and avoiding via unintended or even illegal means.
Avoiding and Evading are actually synonyms. They can mean the same thing. The actual inference in tax law doesn't magically change that.
I guess it could be applied to ex-patriot British citizens, pay an optional 10% income tax (after bi-lateral taxation agreements have been applied ofc) or lose all rights to benefits, including the NHS on your return to the UK. This is actually how National Insurance works atm for ex-pats - unless they voluntarily contribute to get to a minimum number of years of full contribution they don't get the state pension.
Actually in this context they're not synonyms, and I don't mean context as in tax. There are 2 uses of avoid, only one has evade as a synonym.
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well, i just plain dont like him anyway tbh.
If you are rich enough to live in Monaco for 4 years so that on re-entry you no longer have to pay income tax, then private healthcare and pension is a non-issue really.
That doesn't disprove my point...
Yeah but most British ex-pats aren't rich enough to live in Monaco for 4 years - they live in places like Thailand, Spain or the Middle-East.
Personally I think any British citizen should have their citizenship removed if they go off to live in Monaco but hey, that's just me
Yes because it is a synonym even in the context of this thread.
No it's not, e.g.
To prevent delays avoid the closing doors.
Is not the same as
To prevent delays evade the closing doors.
2 words can be synonyms, not always in the same usage.
E.g.
To avoid paying tax put your savings in an ISA.
Is different to
To evade paying tax put your money in an ISA.
What does your anecdote prove?
Merriam-Webster provide 3 definitions of evade.
If people you can see the difference between avoid, dodge and evade, for 2b then I'm puzzled.
"I dodged tax on interest by using an ISA".
"I avoided tax on interest by using an ISA".
"I evaded tax interest by using an ISA".
As long as you aren't accustomed to using evade and avoid in a legal context, there is no difference there.
Similarly
"I dodged tax on interest by lying".
"I avoided tax on interest by lying".
"I evaded tax interest by lying".
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2b synonyms are dodge and circumvent not avoid. I'm really not debating tax here so you know, I have no desire for that. I'm debating semantics of the English language!
I don't think it's as clear cut as you say.
My second set of sentences which is more applicable demonstrate why. Avoid can be used in that sentence. I don't see why you can't use avoid.
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I'm not understanding this 'morally right' attitude.
You will not be breaking any laws, either your money goes to helping benefit scroungers or you buy a new toy.
It's nothing to do with morals.
Because you use an ISA to prevent tax, not dodge or evade.