4K

Dont most of the TV's upscale non 4k images to 4k? I know its not going to be as good as native 4k content but I would have thought it would be better then a normal TV.

I am thinking about buying the Panasonic 65" screen plasma at around £2.7k, the samsung 4k screen is only an extra 1.3k
 
wez130 said:
I saw the 88" Samsung 4K in Harrods a few weeks ago...Want!

I'll wait till they are closer to a grand before i buy. I think i want a projector next anyway.
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My uncle got his shipped over from Dubai, was cheaper than it is here and yes the sheer level of detail with the demo running was stupidly good.

Rather large TV though but my uncle has his own proper cinema room but ill be honest, SD looks absolutely rubbish unless you are sat about a mile away lol. HD looks slightly better i have to say but again you have to be sitting quite a distance for it to look really good.

I thought the sound quality wasnt too bad either as well but ive seen it also in the local samsung store here in Westfield Stratford...stunning TV in all honesty but too big a price tag.
 
Have to say that I was surprised at how good the big Sammy curved OLED 4k unit looked. Brilliant image. Enough to give up my projector? Probably not, but certainly closing in.

As for the material, I see it really starting to happen next year (definitely NOT 5 years).
Netflix have apparently started testing streaming, Sony have a HDD based unit for sale in the US. My personal opinion is that next year we'll see:
- 4k capable BD players (or whatever they will be called)
- More HDD units like the Sony, which can download a movie over a period of potentially hours (thus avoiding the bandwidth issues), then playback.

Sure, they'll be expensive, but then so where the first BD players.
Do remember that the first BD player to market was £1k Samsumg BDP1000 IIRC. Within 4 months, that was available for £600, and within a further 6 months, RS were selling them off for £200.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
Have to say that I was surprised at how good the big Sammy curved OLED 4k unit looked. Brilliant image. Enough to give up my projector? Probably not, but certainly closing in.

As for the material, I see it really starting to happen next year (definitely NOT 5 years).
Netflix have apparently started testing streaming, Sony have a HDD based unit for sale in the US. My personal opinion is that next year we'll see:
- 4k capable BD players (or whatever they will be called)
- More HDD units like the Sony, which can download a movie over a period of potentially hours (thus avoiding the bandwidth issues), then playback.

Sure, they'll be expensive, but then so where the first BD players.
Do remember that the first BD player to market was £1k Samsumg BDP1000 IIRC. Within 4 months, that was available for £600, and within a further 6 months, RS were selling them off for £200.
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This is true with all technology though. Look at 3D when they first came out, best part of £2k for a basic one, now you can get them for around £500.

DVD when that was released was a couple of hundred quid for a player, now £20 for a cheap one again.

I won't be paying £4k for 4k as it is atm (Well £3.5k in richer sounds), i'll wait till it hits below a grand, which i reckon will be in 2015 some time.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
Have to say that I was surprised at how good the big Sammy curved OLED 4k unit looked. Brilliant image. Enough to give up my projector? Probably not, but certainly closing in.

As for the material, I see it really starting to happen next year (definitely NOT 5 years).
Netflix have apparently started testing streaming, Sony have a HDD based unit for sale in the US. My personal opinion is that next year we'll see:
- 4k capable BD players (or whatever they will be called)
- More HDD units like the Sony, which can download a movie over a period of potentially hours (thus avoiding the bandwidth issues), then playback.

Sure, they'll be expensive, but then so where the first BD players.
Do remember that the first BD player to market was £1k Samsumg BDP1000 IIRC. Within 4 months, that was available for £600, and within a further 6 months, RS were selling them off for £200.
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The curved OLED by Samsung is 1080p (the £6999 one).

4K Blu Ray is very likely.
 
andy_mk3 said:
When buying an AV receiver I noticed more models are supporting 4k now actually.
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it's 4K upscaled not true 4K.

meaning it's just 1080P stuff being upscaled to 4K.

last time i checked the standard for 4K hasn't even been set yet, although that was a few months back.

would be stupid to be buying 4K equipment with no set standard.
 
A UHD standard has been agreed now IIRC but there's still no set-in-stone means of delivering content so early adopters might end up picking the equivalent of HD-DVD. It seems likely that they'll be some sort of 4K BD, but this will require new players.

I think the AVRs which support 4K upscaling can pass through 4K video (if you had a 4K BD player and TV either side), although only at 24fps, so typical 2D movies = fine, 3D = no, HFR = no.
 
Somnambulist said:
A UHD standard has been agreed now IIRC but there's still no set-in-stone means of delivering content so early adopters might end up picking the equivalent of HD-DVD. It seems likely that they'll be some sort of 4K BD, but this will require new players.

I think the AVRs which support 4K upscaling can pass through 4K video (if you had a 4K BD player and TV either side), although only at 24fps, so typical 2D movies = fine, 3D = no, HFR = no.
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so basically people who think are future proofed are far from it and will need to rebuy if they want full use of 4K.

madness to go near 4K anytime soon imo.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
it's 4K upscaled not true 4K.

meaning it's just 1080P stuff being upscaled to 4K.

last time i checked the standard for 4K hasn't even been set yet, although that was a few months back.

would be stupid to be buying 4K equipment with no set standard.
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It's 4K, not uplscaling but pass through. The standard they settle on won't matter that much because of this.
 
Yeah I thought it was the TVs that did the upscaling.

http://www.eu.onkyo.com/en/features/4k-upscaling-76033.html

Selected Onkyo receivers offer 4K (4096 x 2160) upscaling of standard video sources such as 480i/p, 720p, and 1080i/p. Interlaced-to-progressive conversion and scaling are performed by Qdeo video processing technology from Marvell. Qdeo uses algorithms to erase video noise and artifacts such as jaggies and feathering. Played back on a compatible wide-screen display, your content will look more detailed and cinematic than ever.

Note: 4K video playback requires a 4K-compatible TV. HDMI pass-through of 4K content from source devices is not supported.
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Ha. What a misleading sales tactic then.

EDIT - for 4K passthrough you will need an AVR which has the agreed upon HDMI 2.0 spec...
 
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Dr House said:
Dont most of the TV's upscale non 4k images to 4k? I know its not going to be as good as native 4k content but I would have thought it would be better then a normal TV.

I am thinking about buying the Panasonic 65" screen plasma at around £2.7k, the samsung 4k screen is only an extra 1.3k
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2.7k?! where?! :D
 
Somnambulist said:
Yeah I thought it was the TVs that did the upscaling.

http://www.eu.onkyo.com/en/features/4k-upscaling-76033.html



Ha. What a misleading sales tactic then.

EDIT - for 4K passthrough you will need an AVR which has the agreed upon HDMI 2.0 spec...
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yeah i did mention that above, it's all upscaled on most peoples 4K receivers and no true 4K.

it's how they make money, restrict features and release them slowly to keep people upgrading. apple have been doing it for years.
 
King Damager said:
I saw something similar in Selfridges. 30k.

IT was absolutely phenomenal mind you...

kd
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It's okay...

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Didn't have anything on the OLED though, even though that was only 1080p

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why would anyone want to buy a 4k TV

H.265 codec is still in its infancy

No 4K BluRays
No 4K Sky/Virgin Channels
No 4K NetFlix

what do you actually watch on it? Upscaled 1080p LOL
 
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