TV For next gen consoles?

Jestahr

Jestahr

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Hi guys,

I'm in the market for a new TV for my soon to arrive PS4.

I basically want something with the smoothest motion and least amount of input lag. I've done some research but unlike PC monitors I'm pretty stumped.

I simply LOVE 120hz on PC, the smoothness of motion is a huge thing for me. I currently have the G2773HS Iiyama 120hz monitor and it's great.

How does Hz work in console land? I know games are capped to 60fps, and that HDMI doesn't work with 120hz (right?). So what benefit is there with a higher HZ TV for gaming?

I currently have a 37inch Dell tv which we inherited and is frankly utter ****e. Credits stutters at the end of shows, any camera panning is stuttery as hell also.

So please, help me navigate this confusing world of console TV's! Ideally need something around 40" and not much more than £500 if at all possible (cheaper the better). Plasma or LED I have no idea, whatever you think is best.

Thanks guys!

TLDR: Best TV for £500 PS4 gaming.
 
How about the Sony KDL42W653. It supposed to very good for games.

I am looking to get the smaller KDL32W653 myself this week.
 
Hi, will check it out.

I found a good site that has a few nice looking ones.

The Toshiba 42L6200U looks really good bang for buck, but alas is only available in US!
 
I got a samsung UE42F5000 from richersounds for 380 with a 5 year warranty after researching gaming for performance inwhich I only found good reviews.

Only been watching tv/movies on it so far but would recommend, final say will be after a weekends gaming on the XB1 :)
 
Im liking the look of the sony Lucifurr linked, will check out that samsung too.

Do let me know what you think once you play some games on it!
 
Yep heard good things about the Sony KDL42. Great picture and very low input lag, at least as far as most tv's are concerned anyway.

Also like above ill be looking to get the 32 inch myself soon. Higher input lag but still decent.
 
Get a Panasonic Plasma, for the best pic qty and response times. The PS4 is powerful enough to maintain 60fps / 1080p on most of what's out there games wise. Any games that are not 60fps, the developer has rushed cos its a launch title.

IF you get a 120hz LCD, there will be a response delay that'll get in the way of games, and you'll just end up turning off that feature, then you'll have less smoothness and more judder as an LCD struggles to pan at 1080p.

I have 3 thx panasonic plasma's all play games perfectly with absolutely zero input lag. I also have a 120hz LCD in one of my boys room, and its 120hz interferes with games more than anything.
 
thedoc46 said:
Get a Panasonic Plasma, for the best pic qty and response times. The PS4 is powerful enough to maintain 60fps / 1080p on most of what's out there games wise. Any games that are not 60fps, the developer has rushed cos its a launch title.

IF you get a 120hz LCD, there will be a response delay that'll get in the way of games, and you'll just end up turning off that feature, then you'll have less smoothness and more judder as an LCD struggles to pan at 1080p.

I have 3 thx panasonic plasma's all play games perfectly with absolutely zero input lag. I also have a 120hz LCD in one of my boys room, and its 120hz interferes with games more than anything.
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Food for thought, I dunno why I just have bad memories of early plasmas and screen burn in.

Is your sons 120hz a good screen with a more modern panel? By all accounts some of these new LED's do well with 100hz+ in terms of keeping input lag low and maintaining a smooth motion.
 
The KDL42W653 or 32 version of the same screen, has one of the lowest input lag's on any modern screen. Other than the confusion over the 200hz clear motion in the adverts its a pretty good screen by all accounts.

I'm hoping to get one in the next few weeks, as my current Samsung has a lot of blur in fast motion.

That or the 6000 Samsung range.
 
It is my understanding (all be it as quite a novice only really looking into tv's very recently), that input lag and motion blur are entirely different things. I.e 'hz' has nothing to do with input lag (ms) when gaming. Of course you want as little motion blur as possible as well as low input lag, but linking the 'hz' of a screen to input lag is wrong as far as I understand it.

For example, the samsung UE32F5000 has lower input lag (in ms) than the sony kdl32, but is considered worse for motion blur especially when shots pan such as watching football, playing football games etc.

But I'm no expert.
 
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You are right of course, my aim is to hit two birds with one stone:)

The W6 Sony screens are below 20ms.
 
rare said:
You are right of course, my aim is to hit two birds with one stone:)

The W6 Sony screens are below 20ms.
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I was more so replying to 'thedoc' so I don't disagree with what you've said :p

Indeed it's tough to find a sweet spot without any major compromises for watching blu rays, gaming, hd and sd tv, especially on a price budget and screen size limit. But I feel the sony 32 inch comes out best for me in that size..

However hdtvtest has it rated at 33ms input lag I believe compared to the 42" sub 20 I think. Still it's not too bad.
 
Panasonic TX-L42E6B, pretty much took all of the reviews, got it a while back, been pretty brilliant so far.
 
Im in the same situation - 2407 is dying and I need to replace it - was thinking 32" but they seem so small so considering 40" now.

Still deciding between the Samsung 32F5500 and Sony KDL32W653; and then the Samsung 40F5500, Samsung 40F6500 and Sony KDL42W653. I think those 40" are around the £500 mark.

Im still scratching my head regards things like picture quality/features vs input lag/motion blur...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Lucifurr said:
How about the Sony KDL42W653. It supposed to very good for games.

I am looking to get the smaller KDL32W653 myself this week.
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Another vote for the w6 series! I have a KDL50W656A (50 inch)- It's absolutely brilliant for gaming, the w6 series and above are being used in most of the official ps4 demo set ups. It's got a brilliant response time around 14ms.

A good w6 review here;

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-kdl42w653-201308113237.htm

If you do ever get this screen, first thing to do is delve into the menus and turn eco mode off.
 
Genuine question - would any of you consider a 40" LED LCD as a PC monitor? It just seems the best bang for buck (for example that Sony W6 goes from £370 to £500 - seems a nice jump for the sake of £130)...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
I'll be using the 32 as a 'monitor' due to lack of space. Not that I use my PC all that much.

I'd imagine much eye pain sitting in front of 40" though :p
 
ps3ud0 said:
Genuine question - would any of you consider a 40" LED LCD as a PC monitor? It just seems the best bang for buck (for example that Sony W6 goes from £370 to £500 - seems a nice jump for the sake of £130)...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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I'd you'd be fine. Say if you did get the w6 as stated previously the response time on the units are brilliant. The sets even have a graphics mode designed for pc use! You'll have more features than a standard monitor also, smart etc - Probably a little redundant when used on a pc however.
 
A 32 inch would make a decent enough monitor I think.

I have been reading reviews for days on end, buying a TV these days is not easy. Especially when companies like Samsung love to make TONS of models with very little difference to them. They don't make it easy for the consumer.
 
Clarkson said:
I'll be using the 32 as a 'monitor' due to lack of space. Not that I use my PC all that much.

I'd imagine much eye pain sitting in front of 40" though :p
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I'd you'd be fine. Say if you did get the w6 as stated previously the response time on the units are brilliant. The sets even have a graphics mode designed for pc use! You'll have more features than a standard monitor also, smart etc - Probably a little redundant when used on a pc however.
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rare said:
A 32 inch would make a decent enough monitor I think.

I have been reading reviews for days on end, buying a TV these days is not easy. Especially when companies like Samsung love to make TONS of models with very little difference to them. They don't make it easy for the consumer.
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I have to be honest, I dont use the desktop as much as I did, so 80% of the usage would be console gaming and TV/Films. Only reason Im considering the Samsungs is that they are a bit more advance with SMART and playback more filetypes/containers...

Its great to have choice and it does seem 40" is a more competitive market regards getting a perfct TV for your needs; I sometime feel that salespeople just ignore your needs as soon as you mention a 32". Already been around Richer Sounds and John Lewis today and last weekend!

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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