It didn't because it doesn't exist. There is no such research.
Poll: Spelling/Grammar Police (online)
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It didn't because it doesn't exist. There is no such research.
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25365803&postcount=67
Probably not. You don't seem to have noticed that the majority of the hostility is going the other way. Like yours, for example.
This was my school
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1999/may/10/features11.g2
Or should I say the school I attended, before pedantic man jumps in
Not everyone had the same "high standard of free education" you might have been fortunate enough to have
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That's where it falls down though. It's not a grasp of english that is the issue.
Ask me the difference between there and their, I can tell you. But that doesnt mean I always do. As they sound similar theres no connection between brain and hands, so either could come out. Perhaps other people visualise what they want to write, I hear it and I type/write there's no thought of spelling invloved. So you get that.
Then there's the typos, partly broken ipad, but also ai tend to read what I think I've written, rather than what I have, unless I come back a few minutes latter and re-read it. Which is often why you'll se it edited 5 or so minutes later.
I've never been good at language though, people say just learn more, its not usually a case of not knowing. The amount of extra work I've done for my entire school life, from speech therapy, hand writting skills and general english. Didn't have break for entirety of primary school, instead having extra lensons. Secondry school was extra classes and home work.
English grades have always been crap, where science and maths have always been good. Well until a-levels where I basically just didn't turn up.
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I'm exactly the same, you won't find many posts by me without an edit either.
I'm sure a lot of you know I have something wrong with me that stops me thinking like a normal person does.
In b4 arknors uses it as an excuse again.
I wish some of you could live a day with what I have to understand what it's like
That's part of the issue, some people DO have difficulties but they still manage by putting a bit of effort in.
It's genuinely not hard, and the excuse that some people use about how it's not an essay or something is just that, an excuse. Like someone else has already said, if they spent the time learning the basics of English properly it would be second nature which would require no effort or thought.
I've done it myself, it's not hard it just requires a bit of time and effort to make sure you're using English to the best of your ability.
There's differences that are fine of course, toning down punctuation when you're writing informally, as full on punctuation isn't necessary in an informal situation.
But then you have people who might use apostrophes for every word that ends in the letter S, and you can tell that it's not a case of them not putting effort in but that they think that's how you use apostrophes.
Generally it'll take someone saying something to them for them to realise what they're doing.
What is stupid is the way some people have a melt down, or go straight on the offensive if anyone points a mistake out to them, something that isn't clearly a typo.
Well I'm sure those members wouldn't mind if people were replying to them anyway and just corrected the quote and applied bold text to the sections they had edited.
People replying just to criticise aren't exactly being helpful or really contributing to the forums in those posts.
I'd assume the majority know how it's supposed to be but formed bad habits over time and don't realise.
I don't know about everyone else but when I post I tend to think what I want to say as I type and don't bother to read what's actually coming up on the screen.
Sure, but if you spent some time changing that, you'd improve a lot and then not have to put so much effort in as it'll become second nature.
There are words I used to spell incorrectly, and it was awkward for me when it came to using the correct spelling because of how used my hands were to the wrong spelling (think of words with ie/ei that I still get mixed up), it changes quickly enough when I've put the effort in.
There are words I used to spell incorrectly, and it was awkward for me when it came to using the correct spelling because of how used my hands were to the wrong spelling (think of words with ie/ei that I still get mixed up), it changes quickly enough when I've put the effort in.
anyone with poor spelling can fix that so easily by using this browser extension.
Simply right click anywhere on the misspelt word and boom choose the correct one.
It will break any US-English bad habits as well
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Spell checkers don't really work too well. They can only alert to you the fact that you've spelt some word incorrectly, not that you're using a completely different word.
For example, the way a lot of people seem to spell definitely, as "definately", if they butcher "definately", then a spellchecker is likely going to think the user is trying to spell defiantly and suggest that as the replacement whilst not even offering "definitely" as a choice.
For example, the way a lot of people seem to spell definitely, as "definately", if they butcher "definately", then a spellchecker is likely going to think the user is trying to spell defiantly and suggest that as the replacement whilst not even offering "definitely" as a choice.
Obviously it won't know when people are using the wrong "their" "they're "there" "weather" whether" etc though
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Voted yes to the poll.
Im not a grammar nazi but would prefer if people at least make an effort to spell things correctly.
The odd grammar or punctuation mistake does not bother me as long as I can easily understand whats being said, otherwise I will ignore the post
Im not a grammar nazi but would prefer if people at least make an effort to spell things correctly.
The odd grammar or punctuation mistake does not bother me as long as I can easily understand whats being said, otherwise I will ignore the post
I certainly enjoy reading grammatically perfect posts. Rarely, I may pick up on unfathomable mistakes like using a space before a question mark.
So I'm not really bothered about mistakes. Purely ridiculous errors do make me go "wtf?", but am I bothered, no.
Am I bothered about seeing decent spelling and grammar on a forum? Yes, a well constructed post is pleasing to read.
So I'm not really bothered about mistakes. Purely ridiculous errors do make me go "wtf?", but am I bothered, no.
Am I bothered about seeing decent spelling and grammar on a forum? Yes, a well constructed post is pleasing to read.
When you say well constructed, do you mean simply reasonably well written, or do I get extra points for the Angus Higgins Bracketing System™?
This was my school
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1999/may/10/features11.g2
Or should I say the school I attended, before pedantic man jumps in
Not everyone had the same "high standard of free education" you might have been fortunate enough to have
You'll notice I said "relatively". Compared to schools in some other countries, even your apparently poor school would be considered a pinnacle of education.
You'll also notice I've never actually picked up on grammar or typos - my gripe is with incorrect apostrophes, or people simply using the wrong word, e.g.:
Bought/brought
Their/they're/there
etc.
Things which wont be picked up by spell-checkers, because technically they are correct English - just not necessarily in the way the poster has used them.
How do you propose people improve their language skills if they aren't informed that they need improvement? Or do you feel it's perfectly acceptable to allow people to continue in ignorance?
Just for reference I went to a pretty rough school in Glasgow, and grew up with a Dutch speaking parent, so really it looks like you're just using your school as an escapegoat
(yes I know)
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no one actually cares, as long as you can tell what the person is saying then you're just being an arse about it really for your own high and mighty reasons...
Seems a lot of you have ignored that it refers to seeing grammar on a forum but have changed it to everything ever written... GD +1.
Seems a lot of you have ignored that it refers to seeing grammar on a forum but have changed it to everything ever written... GD +1.
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It annoys me when people post JUST to comment on different post grammar and spelling rather what the post was trying to say.
I think some people just ego boost out of correcting people.
I think some people just ego boost out of correcting people.
Hmmm, i can't spell or write when it comes to pen and paper. (being serious)
On a keyboard though my spelling is perfect even without a spell checker. Grammar is a bit poo but i try my best
Got to say though, i did read a Xbox One review last night where a guy used 'brought' instead of 'bought' 3 times, which made my eye twitch each time. I ignored it though as i didn't want to come off as a 'grammar nazi'
But yes, i think people should try their best to show good spelling and grammar on these boards. Makes life easier for people like me to read.
On a keyboard though my spelling is perfect even without a spell checker. Grammar is a bit poo but i try my best
Got to say though, i did read a Xbox One review last night where a guy used 'brought' instead of 'bought' 3 times, which made my eye twitch each time. I ignored it though as i didn't want to come off as a 'grammar nazi'
But yes, i think people should try their best to show good spelling and grammar on these boards. Makes life easier for people like me to read.
It used to bother me a lot. I used to always correct people, not because it made me feel superior but because it was just wrong and they needed to know so they could be right in the future. As far as I was concerned it was like someone going wrong saying, "apples are blue". You wouldn't let that go, so why let a spelling mistake go?
Now I have just come to expect it so most of the time don't correct people. There are still some things that really grate with me, such as people using phrases like "mass exodus" or " all those criterias" etc but I'll even let those lie now.
Now I have just come to expect it so most of the time don't correct people. There are still some things that really grate with me, such as people using phrases like "mass exodus" or " all those criterias" etc but I'll even let those lie now.
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It bothers me, always... but not usually enough to want to point it out, especially if it's just a fairly common mistake in what is otherwise a legible and constructive post
Far more annoying are things like Americanisms that just sound completely wrong, like "It's totally addicting"... But again I don't think I would bother to call someone up on it
Far more annoying are things like Americanisms that just sound completely wrong, like "It's totally addicting"... But again I don't think I would bother to call someone up on it