Richard Dawkins sums up religion
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I know. I was just responding to the other guys post saying that it is only down to those who are brought up in faith which is clearly wrong.
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It always makes me laugh when people talk of atheists spouting their views, but how many atheists have stopped you in the street? or knocked on your door?
Good job on purposefully misunderstanding my post. I'm not criticising scientific method, I'm criticising those who preach it as fact without having an understanding of it themselves, because they ARE taking it on faith that it is correct because they have no way of confirming that it's correct other than by accepting the words of another.
This attitude is very common with militant Atheists, they love to try and tell people about how they're wrong and then attempt to prove they are wrong by using scientific principles that they don't understand.
Ahhh its better than believing in "because the vicar told me so" though never mind a story book.
I have nothing but contempt for any faith, YOU have cause nothing but pain to the majority of the world. Deal with that when you sleep at night.... Oh wait GOD is on my side........and he said it was fine.
I have nothing but contempt for any faith, YOU have cause nothing but pain to the majority of the world. Deal with that when you sleep at night.... Oh wait GOD is on my side........and he said it was fine.
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People (religious) seem to be confusing Atheists with Agnostics an awful lot.
Fixed.
Science does and will explain everything.
We are at best 3000 years old as a species the universe is 13.8 billion years old.
Or in laymens terms
0.00007% as a intelligent species compared to the life of the universe. Of course we know nothing but we know something and year on year we know more.
(actually that's a scary number in the grand scheme of things)
We are at best 3000 years old as a species the universe is 13.8 billion years old.
Or in laymens terms
0.00007% as a intelligent species compared to the life of the universe. Of course we know nothing but we know something and year on year we know more.
(actually that's a scary number in the grand scheme of things)
They dont need to. They are all on this forum! lol
No one is forcing you to read their views and unless you actively pursue discussion then you will never come across it.
We can only really call ourselves intelligent life rather than primitive life, when we look at the first settlements. Until then, we were no more than animals. The progress that we have made since then really is amazing, but when we look at some of our early, big discoveries in Science, quite a few were hindered by religion.
You are confusing faith with trust.
You don't need faith to accept what science proposes. Science aims to simply provide the best explanation that fits the observations. A rigorous process is in place that ensures only valid theories flourish (those that are well supported by all evidence) while unsupported hypotheses are eliminated. One simply *trusts* the reporting of the findings, trust is not the same as faith here.
And you are wrong about confirming the scientific theories. Anyway is free to research and educate themselves to a point where you can happily confirm that the theories are correct. No faith is required. If you want to confirm the theory of evolution you can do your own research, go to university, do a PhD in a relevant field and dedicate your life to understanding the process and find for yourself that the theory fits the evidence, is predictive and self-consistent.
The only limitation is your own intelligence, ability and time. No faith is required though.
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Let’s take dinosaurs for example.
I’ve never dug up a dinosaur bone, I’ve never tested the authenticity of a dinosaur bone, in fact, I’ve never even handled a dinosaur bone. So why do I believe in dinosaurs? Well, there are documentaries on TV, there are museums where bones can be viewed, there are experts in the field of dinosaurs, and there is a scientific consensus the world over spanning many countries, cultures and thousands of individuals. I understand the scientific method, I understand peer review and I understand how scientists love nothing more than to prove other scientists wrong.
Knowing the above, let’s throw in a little Occam’s Razor. Dinosaurs are real, or there’s a worldwide conspiracy involving thousands of people from virtually every country on the planet for several hundred years. Which is more likely?
That’s a reasoned belief derived from critical thinking – it is the polar opposite of faith.
I really wish people would stop with this incredibly weak and desperate “you’re just as bad” non-argument.
I based that on stonehenge maybe 3000 years old you could argue a larger number say homo sapiens roaming the planes of africa 250000 years ago (after all tools is progress and we requires a science as such)
Even so thats 0.006%..... still not very old i would say
Even so thats 0.006%..... still not very old i would say
For all intents and purposes, it's the same thing. You are believing in something you don't understand, but still attempt to educate others on it, the issue is that people are associating faith solely with religion.
Also, how am I wrong about confirming the scientific theories? I'm not talking about people who strive to educate themselves, I'm not even talking about science. I'm talking about people, who are usually militant/vocal Atheists and how they present themselves, I am not talking about science specifically, I am simply using it to give an example of behavior of certain people.
All this applies to the religious too, in a lot of people's viewpoints, it's nothing more than "this person tells me this thing happened this way, I'll believe them as I don't understand it myself".
Stop making assumptions about what I'm saying and instead respond to what I've said. I have not said anything of the sort, I am not suggesting dinosaurs are not real.
You are taking my use of faith to be restricted to religion. I am talking about the people who are incapable of critical thought, those that just take what others tell them and run with it. My overwhelming experience of those who are Atheists and religious do this very thing, they have no practical understand of the subjects they try to preach at all, and they are simply taking what they've been told on good faith that it's true.
I am not criticising scientific method, and it just goes to show that people like you cannot read what is being said, but instead make assumptions of what's being said which then influences what you read.
You're making the assumption that I am religious, and that's why I am saying what I'm saying.
I'm not religious, it is not incredibly weak and desperate, both sides ARE just as bad because of the type of people both sides are usually comprised of.
As a strong believer in GOD, I don't need scientific proof. Non believers need proof. Just like doubting Thomas! Atheists cannot get their heads around those of us that believe without scientific proof. Makes me laugh really. I love God and I hope that one day some atheists will get to experience that feeling as it is awesome! Nothing like it.
Now, you can s.l.a.g me off guys but you won't be able to put me off my beliefs. It maybe strange to you but live with it. You have 2 roads to travel on. I have taken my path and love it!
Now, you can s.l.a.g me off guys but you won't be able to put me off my beliefs. It maybe strange to you but live with it. You have 2 roads to travel on. I have taken my path and love it!