Richard Dawkins sums up religion

For me, God created everything. Be it from the first instance of life. He initiated it. As for humans, we were created in the likeness of God. I believe that 100%. No evidence to suggest we came from anything else, only suppositions.

You can argue all you like, there is no 100% evidence that we came from a slug or a monkey or a cabbage leaf!

For me, it all comes down to faith as it is for 99% of people who believe in God.

Its only you non believers that like to throw up questions that one cant find a scientific answer for! I trust and believe in God! Yes, i really do! That is so hard for you guys to comprehend isnt it? Well, so be it. Its my choice. I could choose to change my mind if wanted but i havent and wont. Why? Because i love God. Simple. He means so much to me. He makes me feel alive. He is a big part of my life.

To feel the love of God in your life is incomprehensible. It is awesome!

To think, i believe in God! To believe in someone u have not seen face to face!! Waw, guys, it is true love, true faith. One that is very hard to explain.

God bless you all.
 
The existence of God is also a supposition, right?

The Church of England and the Catholic Church, who tell you what to believe, have also told you that evolution is a fact, have they not?
 
Its my choice. I could choose to change my mind if wanted but i havent and wont.

No, you can't just change your mind. If you think you can, just do it for 10 minutes, stop believing in God. Then after 10 minutes, start believing in him again. Post back here when you're done.
 
For me, God created everything. Be it from the first instance of life. He initiated it. As for humans, we were created in the likeness of God. I believe that 100%. No evidence to suggest we came from anything else, only suppositions.

There is plenty of evidence to suggest humans evolved from other species. And no evidence to suggest we spontaneously arrived here in gods image.

You can argue all you like, there is no 100% evidence that we came from a slug or a monkey or a cabbage leaf!

Why do you need 100% proof, and what would that look like?
 
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Did we evolve from another species, or did our species just evolve?

Well evolution is happening constantly, so naming can be difficult. Every now and then we observe that a big enough evolution has occurred over possibly hundreds of thousands of years to be fitting of a new name.

The name of our species is the "Homo sapien" however follow our known changes back through bone records and we become the "Homo heidelbergensis", and before that the "Homo erectus". The biggest visible change through these three species is our skull size to allow for a larger brain.

Let's be clear here, there can be no set time when these changes occured, the evidence is there clear as day however a Homo heidelbergensis never suddenly gave birth to a Homo sapien, the change occurred very slowly over a very long period of time. Each generation very slightly different then the last.
 
What evidence is there that we evolved from other species? DNA? Which, many 'species' have similar links? Lol. God, for 'Me' is our creator. Simples

Love of God is superb, awesome. You cant beat it until you experience it.

Now, any monkey lovers please find a nice juicy banana and have a good nosh! lol
 
What evidence is there that we evolved from other species? DNA? Which, many 'species' have similar links? Lol. God, for 'Me' is our creator. Simples

There's so much evidence, and it's already been explained in previous threads - I don't even know how you can ask to be honest.

I'd say the biggest piece of evidence is the genetics, things like fossils (when we find them) are a big bonus, but you cannot dispute the genes, mutation, selection and inheritance - and how this alters a species over time (a long time)

Everything about you, from the fact you see in three colours to the colour of your skin is the product of evolution.
 
What evidence is there that we evolved from other species? DNA? Which, many 'species' have similar links? Lol. God, for 'Me' is our creator. Simples

Love of God is superb, awesome. You cant beat it until you experience it.

Now, any monkey lovers please find a nice juicy banana and have a good nosh! lol

Within The Ruins are "calling him out" btw.

 
Ahh, Richard Dawkins, the man who absolutely never gets his facts wrong! LOL

Raymond, it is widely accepted that Moses wrote the Pentateuch (first five books of the Bible/Torah).

It is historical fact that a Jesus of Nazareth lived during the time the bible states - a little research into various Jewish (secular) historians who certainly wouldn’t have an ulterior motive to prove Jesus was the Messiah proves this.

I do agree with you Raymond, it’s all down to faith. I personally think it takes far far far more faith to believe we all came from (in essence) nothing, from a big bang, by chance or sheer luck, rather than by design. There are far too many variables to this universe for it all to be by chance.

I just think of things like:
- The distance of our planet from the sun (sustain life)
- The angle of our planet
- The speed our planet rotates (mavity)
- The weather (plants and crops to grow etc)
- The way nature produces oxygen and other gases required for life

All are too finely balanced to be by chance. Far easier for me to believe God created it but ultimately we choose whether to believe in God or not. Freewill.

What about the women and children getting raped and murdered right now in the name of God across the world.

Who created that?
 
What about the women and children getting raped and murdered right now in the name of God across the world.

Who created that?

Na that's cultural mate, absolutely nothing to do with religion, neither are suicide bombings, the mutilation of children's genitals, and the murder of aid workers trying to rid the world of polio.
 
What evidence is there that we evolved from other species?

155 years ago a man published a book proposing the origins of species by natural selection. The idea has dominated biological science ever since, and attracted more than its fair share of ideological enemies. By the 1930's the work of countless scientists, over 3 generations had formed such body of evidence that their work was widely accepted as the theory of evolution.

80 years on, with advances in technology, and the hard work of another 3 generations of scientists, the core theory is beyond reasonable question, and the practical application of the associated science so powerful, that only the wilfully ignorant would dismiss the theory in its entirety.
 
For me, God created everything. Be it from the first instance of life. He initiated it. As for humans, we were created in the likeness of God. I believe that 100%. No evidence to suggest we came from anything else, only suppositions.

It is a supposition proposed 150 years ago that has withstood significant testing since that time and not proved to be false. It has however changed to explain the various observations.

Also I would argue that there is no 100 % evidence for any hypothesis, thats why they are hypothesis and not fact.

If I may ask, do you believe there is 100 % evidence for god?

For me, it all comes down to faith as it is for 99% of people who believe in God.

Its only you non believers that like to throw up questions that one cant find a scientific answer for! I trust and believe in God! Yes, i really do! That is so hard for you guys to comprehend isnt it? Well, so be it. Its my choice. I could choose to change my mind if wanted but i havent and wont. Why? Because i love God. Simple. He means so much to me. He makes me feel alive. He is a big part of my life.

To feel the love of God in your life is incomprehensible. It is awesome!

To think, i believe in God! To believe in someone u have not seen face to face!! Waw, guys, it is true love, true faith. One that is very hard to explain.

God bless you all.

I really do struggle to understand this. I don't wish to argue against it as I believe this is for you to decide. But to explain how I interpret this (or at least understand it) it reads like you have have no initial evidence either way, but simple decide to believe in god, presumably passed on from someone else, at which point you become enlightened and god is some how revealed to you at least in an emotional sense?
 
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Ahh, Richard Dawkins, the man who absolutely never gets his facts wrong! LOL

Raymond, it is widely accepted that Moses wrote the Pentateuch (first five books of the Bible/Torah).

It is historical fact that a Jesus of Nazareth lived during the time the bible states - a little research into various Jewish (secular) historians who certainly wouldn’t have an ulterior motive to prove Jesus was the Messiah proves this.

I do agree with you Raymond, it’s all down to faith. I personally think it takes far far far more faith to believe we all came from (in essence) nothing, from a big bang, by chance or sheer luck, rather than by design. There are far too many variables to this universe for it all to be by chance.

I just think of things like:
- The distance of our planet from the sun (sustain life)
- The angle of our planet
- The speed our planet rotates (mavity)
- The weather (plants and crops to grow etc)
- The way nature produces oxygen and other gases required for life

All are too finely balanced to be by chance. Far easier for me to believe God created it but ultimately we choose whether to believe in God or not. Freewill.

A guy named Jesus existed? THAT is your evidence? If I can prove a woman named Sarah Connor existed in the time the Terminator states, would that then be true too? :confused:

Us living on a planet perfect for life isn't lucky at all, it is exactly what should happen. Because it simply cannot happen anywhere else.

You see space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. It should be no surprise that out of billions of galaxies, each with billions of stars, each with a bunch of planets, that one, at least one, would be capable of sustaining life. So it really is unremarkable that this is where we live.
 
This is true and very important. I see many people in this thread declare that God does not exist, but it's implicit in their post that they refer specifically to the concept of a personal God, rather than the broader concept of God.

It's why when criticising what I and others have said, they always do so in the context of Abrahamic religions.

Others might point out that constructing supernatural explanations for any number of things has been a part of many different human cultures. I've probably mentioned cargo cults a few times in here but its a reasonable (IMO) illustration of a belief system developing in a primitive culture.

The requirement for evidence can apply to anything. I'd fully accept though that it is very easy to fall into the trap of being selective with what you become skeptical of.
 
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