M&S have dropped a clanger

not sure though why all the outrage. We have anti-discrimination laws and the big companies have to live with that. But let's all make a big fuss because it's the scary Muslims complaining again :rolleyes:

Is it really any different from being asked to wait when the checkout assistant is under-age and needs approval from the checkout boss to sell you booze?

I agree M&S have handled this incredibly badly but for all the other company spokesmen denying they have similar policies - yes you do!
 
not sure though why all the outrage. We have anti-discrimination laws and the big companies have to live with that. But let's all make a big fuss because it's the scary Muslims complaining again :rolleyes:

Is it really any different from being asked to wait when the checkout assistant is under-age and needs approval from the checkout boss to sell you booze?

I agree M&S have handled this incredibly badly but for all the other company spokesmen denying they have similar policies - yes you do!

My quarrel is not with Muslims but with M&S and their pandering to anybody's religious whim, be they Christian, Jew or Muslim.
 
I think if common sense prevails/prevailed, the customer could just "swipe" the bottle/meat product himself against the checkout machine or is this idea just a bit out there
 
Oh, the humanity! Would your sky fairy disown you, or would you just clean up the mess (as if you would with, say, milk) and carry on with your day?

Would you eat off a toilet bowl that has been cleaned and is 100% bacteria/virus free? I am assuming no ( I personally wouldn't), would you drink the wee if offered? ( again I would say no and hoped you would too).. Wine for us is in the same category i.e. akin to urine and we are not meant to let it get on our skin/clothes.

If it happened as an accident, then that is fine but better safe than sorry.. I would respond to your childish post but I am taking the higher ground
 
No, you'd be British. People that claim to be English when neither parent is English is plain wrong.

Rubbish. A person is not their parents.

Why do you make that distinction between British and English? If a person whose parents aren't British can be British, why can't a person whose parents aren't English be English?

Why do you define "English" by who a person has sex with? That is what you're doing, as you define it by parenthood.

Scenario 1: Some people emigrate to England from what was a British colony prior to the 1950s. They grew up in an area with a strong British and particularly English influence, speaking English as their native language and with many English customs. On emigrating to England, they become entirely English. Cricket, tea and scones, the whole nine yards. Many of them have children together after coming here. Some of those children grow up and have children of their own. In some cases, both parents were children of people who came here in the 50s as described above. So by your definition, these very English people born in England to people born in England are not English.

Scenario 2: Someone emigrates to England but has no connection to it at all. They don't identify themself as English. They speak English as a foreign language and only when necessary. They live in an enclave that is identifiable as part of England only by the weather and most of the architecture. Different language, different clothing, different customs, different everything. Someone English converts to suit them and they have a child together. That child has no connection to England - they don't identify themself as English, they speak English as a foreign language and only when necessary, they grew up and live in an enclave, etc. By your definition, they're English.

Your definition does not match reality.
 
Would you eat off a toilet bowl that has been cleaned and is 100% bacteria/virus free? I am assuming no ( I personally wouldn't), would you drink the wee if offered? ( again I would say no and hoped you would too).. Wine for us is in the same category i.e. akin to urine and we are not meant to let it get on our skin/clothes.

Sounds like a psychiatric disorder to me lol.
 
I think if common sense prevails/prevailed, the customer could just "swipe" the bottle/meat product himself against the checkout machine or is this idea just a bit out there

If common sense prevails the muslim checkout girl/boy would scan the items that caused offence (and being paid to do) (and signed the contract) which allows everybody get on with their lives without being ****ed off with it all.




Unless you would like the customer to do theM&Ss job instead of the Muslim employees
 
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Would you eat off a toilet bowl that has been cleaned and is 100% bacteria/virus free? I am assuming no ( I personally wouldn't), would you drink the wee if offered? ( again I would say no and hoped you would too).. Wine for us is in the same category i.e. akin to urine and we are not meant to let it get on our skin/clothes.

If it happened as an accident, then that is fine but better safe than sorry.. I would respond to your childish post but I am taking the higher ground

It's in a bottle :rolleyes:
 
Would you eat off a toilet bowl that has been cleaned and is 100% bacteria/virus free? I am assuming no ( I personally wouldn't), would you drink the wee if offered? ( again I would say no and hoped you would too).. Wine for us is in the same category i.e. akin to urine and we are not meant to let it get on our skin/clothes.

It is squashed fermented grapes, get a grip of yourself.
 
Would you eat off a toilet bowl that has been cleaned and is 100% bacteria/virus free? I am assuming no ( I personally wouldn't), would you drink the wee if offered? ( again I would say no and hoped you would too).. Wine for us is in the same category i.e. akin to urine and we are not meant to let it get on our skin/clothes.

If it happened as an accident, then that is fine but better safe than sorry.. I would respond to your childish post but I am taking the higher ground

I certainly don't have a problem handling wee if it's in an appropriate sealed container and as part of my job I have to transport all sorts of lovely samples

Surely to god you can't object to handling alcohol in a sealed container or does your sky fairy object to that too?
 
Marks & Spencer has backtracked after initially claiming Muslim members of staff could refuse to sell customers alcohol.

The retailer said the member of staff involved should have been found a ‘suitable role’ in the clothes or bakery departments instead of a till where she could be expected to sell alcohol.

Marks & Spencer had yesterday claimed that workers were excused from selling alcohol or pork due to their religious beliefs.


storm in a tea cup.

Also lol at the wee analogy. What a ridiculous set of rules to live and die your life by. Well done.
 
That's good to hear, people like that should be fired for wasting the customers time. Never have I known people in any other position of employment that can get away with refusing to do the work they are paid to do!
 
Would you eat off a toilet bowl that has been cleaned and is 100% bacteria/virus free? I am assuming no ( I personally wouldn't), would you drink the wee if offered? ( again I would say no and hoped you would too).. Wine for us is in the same category i.e. akin to urine and we are not meant to let it get on our skin/clothes.

If it happened as an accident, then that is fine but better safe than sorry.. I would respond to your childish post but I am taking the higher ground

There's an amazing invention commonly used - it's called a bottle! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Unless you plan on uncorking the bottle and pouring it all over yourself while serving customers, get back in your box. :)
 
Would you eat off a toilet bowl that has been cleaned and is 100% bacteria/virus free? I am assuming no ( I personally wouldn't), would you drink the wee if offered? ( again I would say no and hoped you would too).. Wine for us is in the same category i.e. akin to urine and we are not meant to let it get on our skin/clothes.

If it happened as an accident, then that is fine but better safe than sorry.. I would respond to your childish post but I am taking the higher ground

And I thought I was oppressed with Christianity during my adolescence.

You can keep your ideological ideas.
 
Are you sure about that?

The Church of England/Anglican Church is formally recognised by the state as the "established" church of the nation. The Queen is the head of state and head of the Church of England. Church of England Bishops also have seats in parliament. Without the UK becoming a full blown theocracy, how much more of a state religion could it be?

It could be far more so. Anglicanism is the official state religion of England but it has minimal effect. The monarch does not rule and the handful of clerics in Parliament comprise about 3% of the House of Lords, which can only delay bills and only if the government lets them. So they're a tiny minority in an organisation which collectively has only minimal power.

Anglicanism is not really a state religion at all despite being dressed up as one. It's the decorative remnants of one, retained for tradition. The idea that it's so powerful that the only way it could become more so is if the UK became a full blown theocracy is silly.
 
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