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Don't remember having to clone the SH Mac address when setting mine up, simply change option to modem mode and connected all cables and job done.

Strange. I ran the wizard as is and wouldn't find the connection.

I added the mac address of sh and it worked straight away
 
i'm getting very angry now with VM. called VM this morning due to the speed still dropping. now they are saying it's the SH2 and levels at fault, so they sending yet another engineer out tomorrow. but I know 100% it's nothing to do with the SH2 and levels, I've already had a second SH2 and also every engineer that as came out has said the levels are perfect and the issue isn't anything to do with in the house...

heres the levels

Downstream
DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8
Frequency (Hz) 283000000 267000000 275000000 291000000 299000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked
Channel ID 35 33 34 36 37 38 39 40
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate (Msym/sec) 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000
Interleave Depth I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17
Power Level (dBmV) -1.19 -0.56 -1.05 -1.16 -0.99 -0.90 -0.84 -0.51
RxMER (dB) 38.26 38.26 38.26 38.26 38.98 39.40 38.98 38.98

Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 3 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 27400000 N/A N/A 45800000
Ranging Status Success Other Other Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 43.75 N/A N/A 45.25
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

to me the levels are perfect. also if it was the SH2 and levels, surely the speed issue would be 24/7. but my speed issue is only at peak times / weekends....

I really wish VM would stop lying.

I just want VM guys to sort this. even the last engineer said it sounds like a high utilisation issue still.

just had a engineer round, she said the SH2 and levels are fine. now this is the crazy thing. she called her manager and guess what him and her is saying, it's the Traffic Management and said if I download over 20MB (yes you seen it right 20MB) my speed will drop by half and if I download another 20MB+ the speed will drop by another half and so on until the connection cuts off and said Traffic Management is on 24/7. at this point I was getting very angry. I told her no that's all wrong and I showed her the Traffic Management Policy but nope she till said what her manager and she said is right. so basically VM managers, engineers, customer service team have no idea what their talking about.

i'm very angry on how VM is treating me, I've been with ntl/VM for over 18years

update.

I had the top tech guy at VM called us last Friday, explained everything to him yet again, he asked me to do a speed check so I did and we told him the speed is at 71Mb and he said he can see that (tbh I don't know how he can see because he wasn't even connected to my pc to see the screen) anyway he then said there's clearly a issue somewhere, so he said he will keep monitoring/testing it over Saturday / Sunday and said to call back customer service on sunday or Monday to get the results, so we did that and guess what, no results and then the guy wanted to connect to my pc to see the screen so I said ok then he clearly seen the speed was at 50 -71Mb, so then also the guy kept banging on about the Traffic Management (which my issue has nothing to with the Traffic Management) then he said he would call us back within 2 hours which he never did and in the speed didn't go back to normal until 12.35am Monday.

yesterday at 10.45am my speed was at 50 - 80Mb very spiky. at about 1pm it was down to around 30 - 56Mb and so on. that's way before the Traffic Management starts.

i'm really getting fed up about this, I know there's an issue but it seems VM doesn't want to find the problem and doesn't want to find the problem so they just blame it on the Traffic Management.
 
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Sounds like oversubscription - and it has to be oversubscription since VM inherently runs their network on an oversubscription model. I wouldn't believe anything VM tells you at all, they know exactly what's going on. Heck in 6-7 years I've been lied to well over a dozen times, most recently being just two weeks ago.

I know how it feels by the way. I had to endure 6 months of torturous internet. By the time VM were interested in doing anything about it the particular segment had deteriorated to almost total annihilation. Was getting 0.01mb and 900ms pings throughout the day and about 10mb during the night.

Thing is, once they decide it's financially viable to give you what you pay for, they really do fix it. I'm not sure what this decision is based on; it could be a threshold where once 98% of customers threaten to leave then they mobilise a network expansion.

tbh I don't know how he can see because he wasn't even connected to my pc to see the screen

Although bandwidth usage can be monitored from the CMTS, they do have access to modem information as well. Last time I called VM she knew I had a D-Link device attached to the SuperHub (obviously done through MAC address's manufacturer ID.)
 
This is why they want the superhubs in houses, and not the older modems, or let you have your own kit, and another reason they hate you having your choice of router...... the SH firmware is written primarily with their needs in mind, easy access and data retrieval far beyond what they should need, their argument is that if all people have the same hardware or as near as, then it's easier to trouble shoot, and the more control/access they have the better they can help, personally i call BS, most of the problems they seem to have outside of over-subscription seem to be either hardware related (poor quality) or crappy firmware, which is something they have suffered with from day one when they started screwing with the hardware manufacturers firmware.

I must admit, i seem to be lucky in that i don't have the problems you guys are seeing, but i do feel that should i have to have prolonged contact with them to fix anything that i'd likely be changing providers if i had havlf the lies told to me that seem to being coughed up !
 
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update.

I had the top tech guy at VM called us last Friday, explained everything to him yet again, he asked me to do a speed check so I did and we told him the speed is at 71Mb and he said he can see that (tbh I don't know how he can see because he wasn't even connected to my pc to see the screen) anyway he then said there's clearly a issue somewhere, so he said he will keep monitoring/testing it over Saturday / Sunday and said to call back customer service on sunday or Monday to get the results, so we did that and guess what, no results and then the guy wanted to connect to my pc to see the screen so I said ok then he clearly seen the speed was at 50 -71Mb, so then also the guy kept banging on about the Traffic Management (which my issue has nothing to with the Traffic Management) then he said he would call us back within 2 hours which he never did and in the speed didn't go back to normal until 12.35am Monday.

yesterday at 10.45am my speed was at 50 - 80Mb very spiky. at about 1pm it was down to around 30 - 56Mb and so on. that's way before the Traffic Management starts.

i'm really getting fed up about this, I know there's an issue but it seems VM doesn't want to find the problem and doesn't want to find the problem so they just blame it on the Traffic Management.


I know exactly how you feel mate, having similar problems atm, now have a steady 8Mb download (my upload speed is quicker) and VM don't seem to give a ****.
Woke up today with no connection and couldn't post on VM forums so had to ring CS in which she got the connection going again but at 8Mb and again didn't believe me so she started a remote session for around 40mins and kept going round in circles ... she also had the cheek to ask if i had previously worked for VM because i was doing the test before she asked ... my reply was i had plenty of practice as i am sure most VM customers have :rolleyes:

I have another engineer booked for Monday this time i requested the senior engineer so hopefully my problem will get sorted.


@mark thanks for the graph, SH2 looks to of sorted your problem for sure.
 
Who is this Mark eh!

lol! ... i was close enough ... thats what a phone call to VM does to you. :p

Just finished a call with retentions about my contract renewal and manage to get 2 weeks free BB added to my account for my problems.

Also as i have the largest package for VM (120Mb BB, XL tv & XXL Phone +sky sports/movies) i managed to upgrade the 3 tv boxes (1 v+, 2 standard) to 1TB tivo boxes and 6 months for £100pm than £118pm for the remaining 6 months.

Not a bad deal considering VM page shows my bundle as around the £149pm mark, just hope they can sort my problem Monday as the engineer is going no where till it's sorted lol.
 
So i finally got round to connecting my new N66U the other day and after restarting the modem etc. i noticed I was assigned a new ip address (i had had the last ip address for14 months) and the ping on the tbp graph for the new ip was not as good as on the old ip and i could only get 95mb instead of the 125mb I had been getting.

original using superhub 1 a day or 2 after been restarted


sh1 8 days after been restarted without any use on the network.(nothing had been connected to the network for a week except the sh1 was powered on)


using SH1 in mm with N66


i didn't have chance to leave it to see if it degraded over time like it did with just the sh1.

The ping was starting to get better but the lack of full speed was starting to bug me, so I had a little play this morning. first thing i decided was to try without the router but leave in modem mode and i get assigned a new ip address again in the same range as my original ip and i am back up to 125mb download. So i have reconnected the N66 and used the MAC clone and it hasn't changed the ip address this time. I and can now get 125mb through the router pingtest.net pings seem quite good so just waiting for tbp to populate

sh1 mm N66U Mac cloned
 
Senior engineer visited today and i still at no more than 30Mb. :(



Didn't last too long



When the engineer visited my speed was 110Mb which i was surprised as it normally isn't but after he ran a few tests it soon dropped below 5Mb so off he went to the green cabinet and found 2 faulty taps (not sure what these are) so got a Network guys out and replaced which hasn't sorted the problem.

His supervisor called to say there are a few 100Mb+ customers in my area complaining about speed issues in which the Engineer said it could be a problem with the MBR but to rule out problems he has booked a re-pull for next week ... i see what people mean when you get a problem with VM you get a problem.

Again engineer did a great job checking everything and explaining what he was doing can't fault the tech guys.
 
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Senior engineer visited today and i still at no more than 30Mb. :(



When the engineer visited my speed was 110Mb which i was surprised as it normally isn't but after he ran a few tests it soon dropped below 5Mb so off he went to the green cabinet and found 2 faulty taps (not sure what these are) so got a Network guys out and replaced which hasn't sorted the problem.

His supervisor called to say there are a few 100Mb+ customers in my area complaining about speed issues in which the Engineer said it could be a problem with the MBR but to rule out problems he has booked a re-pull for next week ... i see what people mean when you get a problem with VM you get a problem.

Again engineer did a great job checking everything and explaining what he was doing can't fault the tech guys.

Don't forget to ring up and tell them it's so bad your having and repull ect and ask for some money off the bill.
 
Last month I only paid £6~ for my line (120Mb broadband only) and this month it'll be £8~ because of the speed issues I've been having, fluctuations between 20 and 30Mb for my average speed.

Funnily enough, the UK call centres are the ones giving me hassle when it comes to sorting out credits for the problems. They seem to act line it's their money that I'm asking for.

I've had much better results using the Asian call centres to sort that out.
 
Last month I only paid £6~ for my line (120Mb broadband only) and this month it'll be £8~ because of the speed issues I've been having, fluctuations between 20 and 30Mb for my average speed.

Funnily enough, the UK call centres are the ones giving me hassle when it comes to sorting out credits for the problems. They seem to act line it's their money that I'm asking for.

I've had much better results using the Asian call centres to sort that out.

what area are you in mate? ... i'm in DN17 (area 30) if your not near me than i guess the problem is further a drift than the engineer thought.
 
I'm in area 1 (I think, my area reference is 01). I've had various technicians out and none of them can find an issue, most have suggested it's an infrastructure problem, and that it's hard getting the call centre staff to admit that there are any infrastructure issues.

They're sending a senior technician out tomorrow with a laptop to test my connection. I'm not really sure why they're doing that as I've never heard of that from them, however they are very quick to try and claim it's my computers that are at fault, then when I mention that I have 5 computers around the house and it's the same on them all, they move on to trying to convince me that an Internet connection is split equally between the number of computers connected.

When I point out that I know it doesn't work like that, they comment on my high usage, claiming it's the highest they've ever seen and that my low speed is due to the traffic management. I then have to point out the if I was being traffic managed, I wouldn't be intermittently seeing full speed 5-10% of the speed tests I run to monitor my connection over a period of time.

I've had technical support say to me on multiple occasions now that they don't know what to say to offer support as they can tell I know more about the topic than they do, which just makes it even more awkward because I barely know anything about networking and Internet connectivity.
 
I'm in area 1 (I think, my area reference is 01). I've had various technicians out and none of them can find an issue, most have suggested it's an infrastructure problem, and that it's hard getting the call centre staff to admit that there are any infrastructure issues.

They're sending a senior technician out tomorrow with a laptop to test my connection. I'm not really sure why they're doing that as I've never heard of that from them, however they are very quick to try and claim it's my computers that are at fault, then when I mention that I have 5 computers around the house and it's the same on them all, they move on to trying to convince me that an Internet connection is split equally between the number of computers connected.

When I point out that I know it doesn't work like that, they comment on my high usage, claiming it's the highest they've ever seen and that my low speed is due to the traffic management. I then have to point out the if I was being traffic managed, I wouldn't be intermittently seeing full speed 5-10% of the speed tests I run to monitor my connection over a period of time.

I've had technical support say to me on multiple occasions now that they don't know what to say to offer support as they can tell I know more about the topic than they do, which just makes it even more awkward because I barely know anything about networking and Internet connectivity.

I feel sorry for the engineers technicians. A couple of years ago when my area had oversubscription issues they sent the poor "senior engineer" round several times (good honest bloke to be fair). Every time the dude said stuff like "I don't know why they keep sending me to customer sites for oversubscribed areas" ... "the issue is with the backend" ... "I don't know what they expect me to do here, your wiring is fine" ... "You don't have any junk on your computer".

When it runs fine it's great. But god forbid just one more customer signing up to VM has enough potential to send the whole UBR into meltdown. This is why I always, ALWAYS do my utmost to stop people from joining VM.
 
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Well one of the VM mods PMd me on the forum, apparently there's no over utilisation issues in my area so when my contract it up with Sky/Plusnet I will probably get Virgin installed. How long is the cooling off period these days?
 
Well one of the VM mods PMd me on the forum, apparently there's no over utilisation issues in my area so when my contract it up with Sky/Plusnet I will probably get Virgin installed. How long is the cooling off period these days?

You should get a local persons opinion.
 
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