Lawful killing of Mark Duggan

thedoc46

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I don't know about you lot, but reading up on the evidence, it seems to me that he was executed.

Eye witnesses saying all he was holding was a mobile phone and it looked to them that he was surrendering.

What's going on with the Police over there?
 
Looks to me like the jury reached the correct decision. Hindsight can't enter into it, which seems to be the current position of many people (see Diane Abbott's tweets for example) and fundamentally it is clear that the entire jury was satisfied duggan had the firearm in the taxi with him.

I await the violence that is likely to follow from certain sections of the community who can't cope with the idea that the police have a responsibility to deal with criminal behaviour.
 
So the firing officer, needs to be discharged. If he can't tell the difference between a mobile phone and a firearm.

OK so he was scum, but he didn't come out all guns blazing.. Only then would I consider it a lawful killing.
 
I'll go with the jury decision. I hope that all those idiots in Tottenham do the same and don't head out to the streets tonight for some agro, burning and looting.
 
Lysander said:
Hmmm...let me think.... I don't care.

They'll still riot in Tottenham regardless tonight.
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the way fatty abbot and others are jumping up and down on tv without actually giving an opinion i wouldn't be surprised. even lee jasper was on sky news waving the race card.
 
Gun with no fingerprints or DNA found? That's suspicious right there. Eye witnesses saying all he was holding was a mobile and that it appeared that he was surrendering.

I think he was judged on what happened afterwards and the fact he was a drug dealer.

What should have been judged was, was that policeman who pulled the trigger a little too eager to get his toy out.
 
[TW]Fox;25623363 said:
I'm not sure what makes you as an individual a better judge than the jury who were presented all the evidence in a courtroom environment, hopefully free from media influence and bias :confused:
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Perhaps he thinks a complete lack of understanding of our legal system is a necessary qualification.
 
thedoc46 said:
Gun with no fingerprints or DNA found? That's suspicious right there. Eye witnesses saying all he was holding was a mobile and that it appeared that he was surrendering.

I think he was judged on what happened afterwards and the fact he was a drug dealer.

What should have been judged was, was that policeman who pulled the trigger a little too eager to get his toy out.
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Have you read the record of the inquest findings that Burnsy2023 linked to? 8 jurors judged that he wasn't unlawfully killed and 2 were in favour of an open conclusion. The force used was judged to be reasonable based on what was known and the circumstances at the time, it might be difficult to recreate that precisely but the jurors have had a better opportunity to do that than most of us and they felt it was a lawful killing.
 
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