Lawful killing of Mark Duggan
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It's impossible to stop every incident from happening ever, what about the fact that in over 10000 callouts in london the armed police have only fired 6 times?
Sounds like the training is going great.
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What should the officers do in your opinion with someone they've been told is armed? Wait until they come under fire?
Can you not believe the officers construed a move from the individual as likely to end in a gun being produced? Or is your mind completely made up on this event you did not even witness?
Did the bloke with the loaded gun in the taxi get a chance to shoot anyone?
I'd say the training worked quite well.
He was unarmed. if you'd read anything about the case, the point is quite clear.
Glad he was shot anyways, he was part of a rather nasty gang bringing upon misery in these communities.
Got to laugh at the state of that family though, what all scummers they all are, talking about how much the children are going to suffer, they are better off without that POS as a role model.
You got less than a second to make a call, he was known to have a gun at him at the time, he didn't comply in those seconds with what was being called to him.
As for sparking the events and riots, spare me, nothing but more scum bags trying to cash in on a situation. Scum, all of them.
Got to laugh at the state of that family though, what all scummers they all are, talking about how much the children are going to suffer, they are better off without that POS as a role model.
You got less than a second to make a call, he was known to have a gun at him at the time, he didn't comply in those seconds with what was being called to him.
As for sparking the events and riots, spare me, nothing but more scum bags trying to cash in on a situation. Scum, all of them.
Yes but the UK police don't face people who can carry guns every hour of the day.That's why they need more training
You need to chill out you Larper
As above the yanks carry their guns 24\7 and most likely draw their gun a few times a day
where as in the UK they may have to draw their gun once in a blue moon. Oh and the parents was cops in the UK first
He was armed when in the taxi, if you read anything about the case, the point is quite clear.
Wonderful work Captain Hindsight, exactly what is you background in these matters?
He was unarmed probably a few seconds before he was shot.
My opinion is that armed officers should wait til a REAL threat is perceived. You're missing the point. How can someone who witnesses say was surrendering holding ONLY a mobile phone be shot.
Have you ever shot a real gun? Do you know what's involved in taking aim? They would have had AMPLE time to take action, with their guns on him, should he happened to have produced a weapon.
No, they didn't.
There is no way on earth any amount of training can fill in for real world experience unfortunately so you could have our armed police training 24/7 for the rest of their life but it's still no replacement for being in real life situations which don't happen that often in this country.
You are missing the point. When armed police surround your vehicle and tell you not to move or they'll shoot , you don't exit the vehicle and reach into your pocket to grab your phone.
Have you ever been faced with a known criminal who you have pretty solid intel on that he is carrying a firearm to go and end someone elses life?
Then why aren't there more dead criminals? The armed police are called out fairly often and rarely is anyone shot.
As far they knew he was armed... If he made a move that could be construed as a threat what choice did they have?
In short, while you were watching the arrest take place, I assume you can confirm Duggan didn't make a move that could be construed as a threat? Oh you weren't there? But you're happy to suggest officers murdered someone in cold blood, on guess work?
ONE witness. Not only that but a witness who was potentially discredited due to evidence that he made a different testimony. It seems so odd for people to be placing so much weight on the evidence of this one witness when clearly the jury considered his evidence to be flawed.
Maybe to a kind of swop with the US police for a year? there is a slit chance they would be dead on their first day
It's not odd at all - Because they have a preconceived opinion and simply pick and choose what they want to believe/quote in order to support it.
In short we have a number of armchair experts here who suggest they know better than the individuals in the recent court hearing, are happy stating lots of non-facts or unfounded opinions, and worse still and are happy suggesting the trained police officers there potentially murdered someone in cold blood.