Weird neighbour keeps moving our pram.
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Just wanted to say that this is a pretty great post.
[FnG]magnolia;25658666 said:
Thanks.
The problem is the people who moan about the rules when it's those about them that are abiding by them they see at fault, oblivious towards 'the other view' because in their own mind they are doing no wrong. Every excuse under the sun why, every rationale argument and woe is me discussion, every "if only you understood how hard it was if you had to X, Y or Z". Heard it year after year and sadly pragmatism relies on pragmatism across the board and that rarely if ever exists, or if it does, last! Everybody is happy to go with the flow until someone doesn't do what they believe to be right, such as our OP who sees no wrong in what he is doing because "if only you understood how hard it was if you had to X, Y or Z".
When you live in a community you need to sign up to a lease and you need to use that when it comes to disputes as it's the only common ground and is the final decision criteria. It doesn't mean you can't still get on with everyone or in fact work to change it, but until you get agreement to change it going against the constrains within it will **** people off and if that happens YOU are in the wrong, not those who are simply drawing your attention to YOUR obligations, you know, the ones you singed up to but never read.....like most people.
To be fair up until recent decades people did, it's only recently that everyone has apparently lost their humanity and become anally retentive about obeying laws/rules and policing one another.
If the blitz happened again we'd probably lose due to health and safety and people complaining about others breaching laws.
If it annoyed him and he didn't know who owned it, this bloke should have just left a note in it politely reminding you to be considerate of other residents (perhaps pointing out any tenancy regulations that prohibit it).
My brother in law used to live in an upstairs flat and they had some sort of 'cupboard under the stairs' where prams and the like were kept.
My brother in law used to live in an upstairs flat and they had some sort of 'cupboard under the stairs' where prams and the like were kept.
To be fair, up until recently, people parented their kids, and didn't expect others to do it for them. They didn't just pass off the inconvenience of having kids to those around them.
In an ideal world I agree, but sadly we don't live in an ideal world so this is fantasy.
Surely it would be easier for all concerned if you just left the pram directly under a window. Then all your missus has to do when she needs to go out is to drop the baby out of the window into the pram, saving time and effort and also not upsetting any neighbours by obstructing communal areas.
There are some very strange people in this thread.
What on earth has the world come to when a father cant help a mother by moving a pram to a hallway and leaving it unattended for 20 minutes, not blocking anyone.
What do people want the mother to do? Leave baby in flat alone whilst bring the pram down, then return (thus leaving pram unattended anyway) or risk droping the baby when attempting to carry pram and baby at the same time?
The whole thing is just ******** ridiculous.
What on earth has the world come to when a father cant help a mother by moving a pram to a hallway and leaving it unattended for 20 minutes, not blocking anyone.
What do people want the mother to do? Leave baby in flat alone whilst bring the pram down, then return (thus leaving pram unattended anyway) or risk droping the baby when attempting to carry pram and baby at the same time?
The whole thing is just ******** ridiculous.
Jay the op has stated it used to be all day then half a day the past few week's its been the 20mins seeing it from an outsider pov and a parents pov I can see how it look's like he took the pee keeping it out I also see that the guy moving it has been a bit of a grump by not confronting the op
Apologies, I was under the impression it was being left for 20 minutes at a time (never all day) - which is why I was very confused by the Hitler like responses.
Lol, wut?
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Common sense is fine if both parties are in agreement that 'x' makes sense. When 'x' does not make sense to both parties then you end up with this situation which is why, as Housey has detailed in superb fashion, we have housing lease agreements.
Who determines common sense, you, me, who? Please, you are showing again examples of what I have mentioned above. "I think it's OK so can't see the problem."
What if you walk out your door every morning to be confronted by a pram, some people would get annoyed at that. What if you had to carry your baby out every morning, but there was a pram there and it made it difficult. What if the posty or delivery guy walked in with a box and tripped over, who is liable?
You see we can all say "common sense" but sadly as I KEEP saying there is a time when one persons common sense is another's pain in the ass. What happens when you reach a state of impasse, how do you deal with that? Do you just fight, go to court, tit for tat, what?