Are PC's/tablets being made so simple they are becoming complicated?

No1newts

No1newts

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By the title I mean when I log on to a new PC/laptop/tablet and they seem to try to make "simple" interfaces which just seem completely counter-intuitive making simple tasks a pain.

This might just be me being a stick in the mud but what is wrong with a desktop, from which you navigate where you need to be? Trying to get into command files and program files at times feels like trying to hack a bank mainframe.

Is this just me? Find it so irritating and miss the days of windows 98 and not brig treat like a complete **** tard.

/rant
 
It's because most people are tards and when given obvious and easy access to such areas, they WILL break said item in the worst possible way, then have a melt down because they can't begin to comprehend that their own actions have been the cause of the issue.
 
It daft to have to put a facsimile in place, it should start desktop and have the option to add on the idiots guide.
 
No1newts said:
It daft to have to put a facsimile in place, it should start desktop and have the option to add on the idiots guide.
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No it should not. Most device now are phones and tablets, and lappys, PC desktops are dying breed, and the interfaces need to change else windows as an OS will be lost forever.
It isn't my preference, but when setup it is fine for most things.
 
No1newts said:
It daft to have to put a facsimile in place, it should start desktop and have the option to add on the idiots guide.
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I happen to agree with you. I believe MS do too, which is why Windows 9 will be more like W7 than W8.

As for the tripe that some people keep rolling out, that desktops are a dying breed, well, that's just nonsense.
 
No1newts said:
It daft to have to put a facsimile in place, it should start desktop and have the option to add on the idiots guide.
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For me on 8.1, I followed a guide that means it loads onto the desktop and everything now acts in the same way it did on 7, such as the menu's of the control panel. It works like that for everything except the start menu.
 
No1newts said:
It daft to have to put a facsimile in place, it should start desktop and have the option to add on the idiots guide.
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Yes that would be the logical thing to do. But Microsoft are in the moneymaking business.

Having the "idiots guide" (Metro) as default means the idiot will typically stick with it. This Metro is what makes Microsoft money by forcing the app-store upon it's desktop users thereby automatically giving Microsoft a huge boost in their user base so they can compete with the Apple and Android app stores respectively.
 
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Ignore the GUI, do everything at the command line! :)

I really miss being able to right click a folder and searching it's contents for something.
Search on windows 7 makes a simple thing into a task best avoided.

I don't use it at all now, I just waste time clicking around till I find whatever I was looking for :(
 
No. You just cant be bothered to spend 5mins learning the new way. Same moan at nearly evey ms os release. Xp was absolutely hated to start with. People complained about win95 ui. Vista im sure you can remember.

Desktop is identical, can even boot to it.
Control panel just search. Or charms > settings > control panel. Then its exactly the same as win7. Right click and pin to taskbar if you use it often.

Oh and don't forget loafs can be found on the right click start button nenu.

Hardly any different to win7
 
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Glaucus said:
No. You just cant b bothered to spend 5mins learning the new way
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So?
new way is not intuitive.

why leave whatever I was doing to open up a search window?


plus if doing it from Start you have to wait, otherwise it closes the search down,
which means using "see more results" instead if you want a window

reordering the search just performs the search again.

it doesn't even display the folder properly, just "folder name (path)", wtf use is that?
 
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I understand why things are being made simpler and it is aimed at making things more user-friendly but as you say in some ways I still miss the days of Windows 98. Sure it was a bit buggy and crashes were too frequent but it did also treat you like an adult, the underlying assumption was that comparatively little was hidden away so anything you did was at your own risk.

I've got used to an OS which just works and I'm sure if I went back to Windows 98 it would start to niggle with all the things that it can't do or that I've got to play around with to get to work but while I've not got to use it I can afford to feel a bit nostalgic.
 
Nore was the old way. You were just used to it. Show me one single os that hasn't got a learning curve. Took me ages to learn some of the ios ways. And i bet a lot of people have no idea about half the ios multi finger gestures.
 
Glaucus said:
Nore was the old way. You were just used to it. Show me one single os that hasn't got a learning curve.
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Yes, I've used computers since they required code entered using switches and a button. I've re learnt everything twenty times over.
The broken search function on Win7 is the only thing I don't like and don't use.
 
Glaucus said:
No. You just cant be bothered to spend 5mins learning the new way. Same moan at nearly evey ms os release. Xp was absolutely hated to start with. People complained about win95 ui. Vista im sure you can remember.
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I have spent hours trying to learn the ribbon in Office 2007 upwards, but I just can't get my head around it. Therefore I stick with the Office 97-2003 umbrella as I know where everything is in the standard file/edit/format/tools menu. Thankfully at my workplace, our IT department lets us choose whether to use 2003 or 2010 on our PCs.
 
Monserrat said:
I have spent hours trying to learn the ribbon in Office 2007 upwards, but I just can't get my head around it. Therefore I stick with the Office 97-2003 umbrella as I know where everything is in the standard file/edit/format/tools menu. Thankfully at my workplace, our IT department lets us choose whether to use 2003 or 2010 on our PCs.
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I doubt that you have actually spent hours trying to learn it.
 
My nieces got tablet for Christmas, one was a Monster High tablet, the other a Moshi Monsters one. The interfaces built over Android were just...wrong. It took me a fair while to sort out the Monster High one, the Moshi was slightly easier. Unfortunatly my sister came to me to check them out and tell her if they were okay, once she had bought them, on Christmas Eve :(

Fortunately, one of them broke the Monster High one in about 3 days, so we ordered some generic Far East tablet which is so so so much better, after checking a few reviews :)

So yeah, the simplicity can become to complex.
 
Monserrat said:
I have spent hours trying to learn the ribbon in Office 2007 upwards, but I just can't get my head around it. Therefore I stick with the Office 97-2003 umbrella as I know where everything is in the standard file/edit/format/tools menu. Thankfully at my workplace, our IT department lets us choose whether to use 2003 or 2010 on our PCs.
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lol.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
No it should not. Most device now are phones and tablets, and lappys, PC desktops are dying breed, and the interfaces need to change else windows as an OS will be lost forever.
It isn't my preference, but when setup it is fine for most things.
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Yeah, but most devices running Windows 8.1 ARE desktops or non touch screen laptops.

It makes no sense to make a desktop OS that is primarily aimed at touch controls. It's not even convenient if you own a touchscreen monitor.
 
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