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XFX DD 290X benched at 4K - Stomps on 780Ti's

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XFX R9 290X Double Dissipation Edition CrossFire Review
Take two custom XFX R9 290X Double Dissipation Edition video cards, enable CrossFire, and let your jaw hit the floor. We will test this combination against the competition in a triple-display Eyefinity setup as well as 4K Ultra HD display gaming. We will find out if custom cards hold any advantage over the reference designed R9 290X.

Apples-to-Apples at 4K
Now that we have looked at apples-to-apples in Eyefinity, it is time to look at apples-to-apples on our 4K display at 3840x2160.

Battlefield 4
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In BF4 we are comparing at 3840x2160 with 2X MSAA and "Ultra" settings. The XFX R9 290X DD CrossFire configuration is able to outperform reference AMD R9 290X CossFire by 15%. XFX R9 290X DD CrossFire is a big 25% faster than NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti SLI in this game at this resolution.

Crysis 3
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Far Cry 3
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In Far Cry 3 we are comparing at 2X MSAA with "Ultra" settings. XFX R9 290X DD CrossFire is 6% faster than reference AMD R9 290X CrossFire and 18% faster than NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti SLI.

Tomb Raider
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In Tomb Raider we are comparing with FXAA and turning the hair down to "normal" settings. We once again see XFX R9 290X DD CrossFire pulling ahead of AMD R9 290X CrossFire and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti SLI in a big way.

Summary
In this evaluation our goal was goal was to focus on XFX Radeon R9 290X Double Dissipation Edition CrossFire versus AMD Radeon R9 290X CrossFire and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti SLI. We will be doing further evaluation of the XFX cards in our follow-up.

We found that there were some shocking performance differences that favored the custom XFX R9 290X Double Dissipation cards greatly. We truly did not expect there to be as much performance differences as we saw today. The XFX R9 290X Double Dissipation video card are clocked at the "same" 1GHz frequency as the reference cards, so we didn’t expect the performance to be that far apart. Wow were we surprised.

XFX Radeon R9 290X Double Dissipation CrossFire decimated reference AMD Radeon R9 290X CrossFire cards in "Uber" mode. In every gaming situation the XFX R9 290X DD CrossFire cards were faster, in some cases a lot faster. The reason for this is simple, the reference AMD R9 290X video cards are throttling below 1GHz most of the time, which we have found to be much more the case in a CrossFire application. In some instances to great degrees, hundreds of MHz. This negatively impacts performance, especially in CrossFire. Uber mode is not a fast enough fan speed to keep the reference cards from throttling. (Interesting though, if R9 290X CrossFire is installed in a case that will focus on GPU airflow, such as the setup that Kyle used in his R9 290X usage article, this can be overcome.)

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The custom cooling on the XFX R9 290X Double Dissipation is robust enough to allow the GPU to maintain 1GHz at all times. In every game we played, in every scenario, and for extended lengths of time, 1GHz was the consistent frequency. This means performance is better simply because the XFX custom video cards are able to deliver the intended clock speed. It is sad that it takes a custom card though to provide what AMD intended in the first place. These custom XFX cards fix AMD’s R9 problems.

When we look at performance versus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti SLI we also find the XFX R9 290X DD CrossFire coming out on top. This we did not expect. We figured GTX 780 Ti SLI might provide some faster performance in some cases. However, it really didn’t. When playing demanding games at high resolutions and aiming for those high in-game settings R9 290X CrossFire pulled through as the faster solution. When we cranked up AA settings, again R9 290X CrossFire pulled through. There wasn’t one scenario in our gaming experiences that GTX 780 Ti SLI was superior in gameplay experience to R9 290X CrossFire configuration from XFX.

Frame Pacing
Let’s talk about smoothness in gameplay in CrossFire versus SLI. With the AMD R9 290X series AMD fully supports Frame Pacing in Eyefinity and 4K. This option is enabled by default. Our feedback on this technology is that Frame Pacing works well to reduce choppiness and create a smooth and fluid gameplay experience with R9 290X CrossFire. We did not experience any choppiness or stuttering with R9 290X CrossFire like we do with the previous generation. There isn’t much to say on this topic anymore because with R9 290X CrossFire it just works, and it does a good job at it.

We only experienced one stuttering situation and that was with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti SLI in Far Cry 3 at 4K. This could simply be a bug, but we did experience it, and it did affect the in-game settings we were able to play at. Overall, the smoothness between SLI and CrossFire in every game seems to be on par now. We have no major complaints.

The Bottom Line
We have a lot of good to say about the XFX R9 290X Double Dissipation Edition video cards. If we could give an award to the "best looking" video card, it would be these from XFX. By far, these are the most visually appealing and modern looking video cards we’ve seen in a while. These XFX cards simply meld well with a clean and well cabled custom gaming rig. These video cards would look epic inside a case with a window. The lit up XFX logo is the icing on the cake.

Looks aside which may very well mean nothing to you, these video cards well built and perform exceptionally. The video cards are sturdy, and very slim. You will be surprised how slim and thin these are as you install these in your system. The copper heatpipes remove heat faster from the core and the fans keep the heatsinks cool with super quietness. For the MSRP price of $569 these video cards are an appealing offer. We cannot wait to see what overclocking potential lies inside with the unlocked voltage.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...tion_edition_crossfire_review/11#.UuZBtRBFAUE

The card is one of the best looking I have seen but sadly, XFX are one of the worst companies I have seen also but that doesn't stop this card doing the business at 4K and it comfortably beats out the 780Ti and reference 290X cards.
 
Niiiiice. If Mantle proves it's worth three of these on water sounds appealing :D. As you say though, I've been burnt by XFX in the past as have a few others on here. It's all good as long as nothing goes wrong lol.
 
Wowzers the memory bus is really helping the 290X (stock) over the 780Ti.

The worrying thing for me is how low the frame rates are at these resolutions with these cards. And they're a long way from being obtainable for anyone other than top end enthusiats.

Max settings in Eyefinity/Surround or 4K is a long way off still.
 
Wowzers the memory bus is really helping the 290X (stock) over the 780Ti.

The worrying thing for me is how low the frame rates are at these resolutions with these cards. And they're a long way from being obtainable for anyone other than top end enthusiats.

Max settings in Eyefinity/Surround or 4K is a long way off still.

Aye, wouldn't be worth it with any less than 3 cards at 4K. Will be interesting to see how the supposed Black Edition does with it's VRAM advantage
 
Wowzers the memory bus is really helping the 290X (stock) over the 780Ti.

The worrying thing for me is how low the frame rates are at these resolutions with these cards. And they're a long way from being obtainable for anyone other than top end enthusiats.

Max settings in Eyefinity/Surround or 4K is a long way off still.

Aye, wouldn't be worth it with any less than 3 cards at 4K. Will be interesting to see how the supposed Black Edition does with it's VRAM advantage. I know like most people I'm in the mind set that 4K isn't worth it 'till Maxwell' but with that looking less and less likely even this year, we may have to make do.
 
Never underestimate the power of XMDA crossfire and a 512bit bus. The 290 cards chug out some serious minimum fps with the details/AA up high.

Glad to see they agree with what i said about Frame Pacing and microstutter being a thing of the past now for Hawaii cards.

I really don't mean to troll our green friends of the forum but i think there may well be some ridiculing going on once (if :D) Mantle (ever :p) launches.


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Never underestimate the power of XMDA crossfire and a 512bit bus. The 290 cards chug out some serious minimum fps with the details/AA are up high.

Glad to see they agree with what i said about Frame Pacing and microstutter being a thing of the past now for Hawaii cards.

I really don't mean to troll our green friends of the forum but i think there may well be some ridiculing going on once (if :D) Mantle launches.


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Troll away, we can take it :D

The 512bit bus really does make a difference at big resolutions. I wasn't sure if it would add that much but from this XFX card, you can see it does. I am glad that frame pacing is sorted now as well, as nothing worse than stutter and when you notice it, you constantly look for it and kills games for me.
 
...The only thing that makes me not want to switch back is I know I'll end up cooking at least one of them trying to get in the top 20 in Heaven bench thread :D

I'm surprised BF4 even runs with 4XMSSA at 5760 on a Ti TBH lol.
 
No overclocked results?
In regards memory bus, the 780ti has more bandwidth so it isnt memory that is at issue

No overclocked results and clocked at 1000Mhz/5000Mhz, so nothing special in clock rates. I just looked at Gibbo's 290 reviews and he said that miners are having issues with these cards, so probably not a good move if you intend on doing that.
 
I really don't mean to troll our green friends of the forum but i think there may well be some ridiculing going on once (if :D) Mantle (ever :p) launches.

Hmm there is a couple on here that are very pro green. I think it's safe to say from these results that the 290's are fantastic cards - no matter if you hate the red camp!

Not getting into Mantle as I need to see it till I comment, but if that does do as well as the hype train makes out then you would be nuts to not buy red if you were upgrading.
 
Nice looking cards, shame they are XFX because lot's of people like to hate on them. Personally never had problems with XFX cards, I think the hate stems from when they ditched Nvidia :p

Custom 290X cards plus Mantle soon, the competition is getting better.. Nvidia must be feeling the heat now, not long until new cards from team green will curb stomp some sense back into the AMD fanboys though :-D Bring on the Maxwell !
 
Do the ref 290x's really loose that many frames from core throttle? As the only difference is the xfx is holding 1ghz core while the ref cards aren't.

I am surprised xfx didn't apply a cheeky little oc onto the card too, we usually expect them when better coolers are involved.

Nice card, shame its xfx, they have a lot of work still to do with European customer relations.
 
Nice looking cards, shame they are XFX because lot's of people like to hate on them. Personally never had problems with XFX cards, I think the hate stems from when they ditched Nvidia :p

Custom 290X cards plus Mantle soon, the competition is getting better.. Nvidia must be feeling the heat now, not long until new cards from team green will curb stomp some sense back into the AMD fanboys though :-D Bring on the Maxwell !

Nah, honestly. I've had many issues with XFX cards. VRM popping, fan bearings...only card I've had that hasn't failed in some form was my old 8800GT which I gave to my brother some time ago. Even that's dead now I think. That's not to say there is anything wrong with this particular card though...but the hate stems from something very real :D. Least for me...
 
If H had of benched a couple of Sapphire Tri X 290X cards the fps would be even higher as the Sapphires have a small overclock applied to core and memory.
 
In fairness, it is only clocked at 1Ghz but unlike the reference cards, it doesn't downclock or need Afterburner to maintain 1Ghz.

I just get frustrated at Hardocp as they seem to spend a lot of time writing each article but historical and cross-card comparisons are difficult.

For example, their previous review of the 780ti Ghz edition would have been an ideal match against this XFX card however, not only is it not in the article but both reviews seem to use different resolutions and/or settings so you can't flick between them to compare.

Anandtech's analysis is not as in depth as Hard's but at least you know where you stand from one card to the next.
 
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