Persecution of Gays

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Homosexuality has been around as long as mankind, we are now in the 21st century, & in various countries homosexuality is still punishable with the death penalty, & other countries they still face discrimination for their homosexuality.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-25927595

I never realise five countries had the death sentence for it.
 
Spinning it on the positive, if you look at the number of countries where discrimination is illegal and acceptance is present, it's pretty much the whole world.
 
Wasn't homosexuality illegal in the UK right up till the 70's ? Look what we did to Oscar Wilde and Alan Turing and countless others.

Don't get me wrong, it's great that the UK has woken up, matured if you will, and that people like Stephen Fry can become national treasures nowadays. But we're hardly the arbiters of global morality that we like to think we are. The Christian right in this green and pleasant land are still vehemently opposed to same sex marriage.


I guess my point is, it's great that the UK is heading in the right direction, but we're not there yet.
 
There's obviously an unstoppable force (progress) pushing forward the idea that homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals. Every 5 years another dozen countries or more relax their laws or grant equal rights.

Yet the conservatives/homophobes/religious nutjobs continue to resist, blindly tilting at windmills. I don't think I'll ever understand how the minds of these people work - even if you are convinced you are right, why fight the inevitable?
 
I remember reading recently about homosexuality in Uganda, where it is punishable by death.

Lets just say "Ugandan ethics minister" is an oxymoron...

The quote was something like "Yes but it is natural for men to want to rape girls, homosexuality is not natural"

Basically condoning the rape of women/ girls as being "perfectly natural" while homosexuality is punishable by death.

It is really a sad state of affairs over there.
 
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I never realise five countries had the death sentence for it.
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Those are just the pussy liberal ones.

Followers of one religion (guess who I'm talking about kids!) like to round them up, glue their anus shut with super glue and then force feed them laxatives.

Something bad happens shortly after.



Someone remind me why we we spent $13 TRILLION helping these people :confused:
 
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Those are just the pussy liberal ones.

Followers of one religion (guess who I'm talking about kids!) like to round them up, glue their anus shut with super glue and then force feed them laxatives.

Something bad happens shortly after.



Someone remind me why we we spent $13 TRILLION helping these people :confused:
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In which country do they do that?
 
bitslice said:
Someone remind me why we we spent $13 TRILLION helping these people :confused:
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Can you elaborate ? Above you say 'we' which I took to me 'us' as in the UK. But you use the American dollar ? So are you in fact talking about global aid or just aid from America ?

Also, $13 Trillion is an absurd amount of money. Was that a figure you just pulled out your ass or can you back that up with empirical evidence ?

Sorry, but your post just doesn't seem credible in the least. I'm not even going to get into the 'super glue' claim. :(
 
Live and let live. Equal marriage or 'tolerating' homosexuals doesn't make your marriage or heterosexual way of life any more meaningless than it already is. If the idea of gay people getting married irritates you, then don't marry a gay person.
 
But look at the state of the family in the west, it has deteriorated significantly. Single mothers, divorces rates all the on rise. I am not suggesting this is only because of the social acceptability of homosexuality. But it has not helped. I largely blame the failure of the family on the state's policies and feminism. Welfare state encourages single mother hood and irresponsible parenting decisions and feminism has destroyed the natural family that has been around for millennia by suggesting that women can have both a full time career and a family without negatively affecting either.


I work with an indian guy who has just been on a trip to india where his parents were introduced to his future potential wives father. Who has travelled from california to meet them and ascertain the guy i work with acceptability in taking his daughter marriage. Ive spoken to him at length about this and he is not too pleased about having to move to cali away from his family and has suggested she moves to the uk to be with him. She also wants to be a part time mom and does not want to leave cali nor compromise and move to new jersey where he has some family.

Now to me this sounded more like a business deal than an infatuation, he has been speaking to her over the net for over a year. He thinks about how he can provide for her long term wise.

Compare this to western culture and we can see where it is lacking and why it is resulting in so many broken marriages.

I am not suggesting the west should adopt indian traditions, i am just pointing out how important family is to there culture and how western culture infatuation takes precedent over practical considerations.

Obviously the gay movement pushes for same sex marriage and the right to adopt children. Now in my opinion that is an un-natural family and is not fair to force that on to children.

I don't support any violence or oppression against anyone via the state or directly.
 
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How on earth are you drawing a link between homosexuality being accepted and the rise of single-parent families?

That whole post is one huge laugh fest. Women should stay at home and look after the kids whilst the man goes out and earns all the money required to pay for everything. What world are you living in?
 
Social acceptability of homosexuality and the failure of the natural family are related because with the social acceptability of homosexuality is that movement for same sex marriage and unnatural families.

Basically the natural family is already on the ropes and now we have a new movement that is going to further negatively affect it. Of course like the modern day western heterosexual infatuation based relationships, with homosexual relationships they are even more so based on infatuation, as there is no natural justification (practicality) for the relationship. Ie they can't have children together.
 
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Obviously the gay movement pushes for same sex marriage and the right to adopt children. Now in my opinion that is an un-natural family and is not fair to force that on to children.
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I have an issue with what you say here. How is being gay 'un-natural' or indeed same sex marriage ? Same sex marriage is at most, 'new' . Being gay is not a choice, it's a natural result of nature and nurture.

Now I believe that ALL people should be treated equally under the law. This means that gay people should have the same rights and expectations in life as heterosexual people.

Also, why is it not fair on the children if they have a Dad and a Dad or a Mum and a Mum as opposed to a Mum and a Dad ? What empirical evidence is there to suggest that same sex partners who adopt, negatively impact their adopted children's development ? :confused:
 
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