All London underground ticket offices to close by 2015

Theophany said:
Bob Crow will be able to summon the mental incapacity to compensate for the TSSA's withdrawal, should he be in a particularly socialist mood.
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He'll wait a couple of hours before saying the RMT should be praised for not going on strike, being instrumental in reaching a deal or some such crap.
 
So the difference between this week and last week is that this week London Underground and the unions got together, talked about the issues and came up with a compromise agreement that means ticket offices will remain open in certain stations where they are needed. There seems to have been an outbreak of common sense in the capital.
 
OR LU just said if you don't call off the strike then we'll bring forward the timetable.

We don't know what's been agreed and they're being very quite about it.
 
robgmun said:
OR LU just said if you don't call off the strike then we'll bring forward the timetable.

We don't know what's been agreed and they're being very quite about it.
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Quite what? From: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...d-deal-on-ticket-office-closures-9121202.html

The details of the deal include:

- That the unions will suspend this week's strike action.

- Two months of intensive talks during which time there will be no further industrial action.

- A review, station by station, of LU's proposals which could result in some ticket offices remaining open.
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Hope that helps.
 
Theophany said:
So LU has basically said 'we'll review it and decide that we were right all along.'

Cool.
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Which would be an act of extraordinary bad faith on behalf of LUL and likely achieve nothing but a further deterioration in industrial relations. Fortunately I expect LUL have people who know what they're about and will act with considerably more maturity than that.

In the real world the sort of top-down, rule by diktat management style you seem to be so fond of rarely works.
 
Theophany said:
So LU has basically said 'we'll review it and decide that we were right all along.'

Cool.
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Nope.

I've seen the minutes and heads of agreement from the ACAS meeting - the union won :-)
 
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amigafan2003 said:
Nope.

I've seen the minutes and heads of agreement from the ACAS meeting - the union won :-)
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The union hasn't won anything, they're on very little borrowed time and as the time runs out they have less and less power. LU wants to automate everything and once everything is in place the next time Bob and his idiots want to strike LU can just turn round and hand them there redundancy notices. LU knows this and can pretty much give them a moon on a stick for now and still come up trumps.
 
scorza said:
Which would be an act of extraordinary bad faith on behalf of LUL and likely achieve nothing but a further deterioration in industrial relations. Fortunately I expect LUL have people who know what they're about and will act with considerably more maturity than that.

In the real world the sort of top-down, rule by diktat management style you seem to be so fond of rarely works.
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See, you bring it down to petty snipes at character that 1. aren't even zingers and 2. are factually inaccurate. In what world is that a jumping off point for any kind of adult conversation?

amigafan2003 said:
Nope.

I've seen the minutes and heads of agreement from the ACAS meeting - the union won :-)
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What have they won? Genuinely curious as it seems like kicking the can down the road to me.
 
Theophany said:
See, you bring it down to petty snipes at character that 1. aren't even zingers and 2. are factually inaccurate. In what world is that a jumping off point for any kind of adult conversation?
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Where have I had a petty snipe at your character?
 
scorza, before we go off track arguing with Theophany over semantics of posting. Can you link us to the minutes of the meeting as like many here i want to know what was agreed
 
Theophany said:
Is that an NDA or just that you have no clue?
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It's not my place to say as they are commercial in confidence atm. TBH I'm pushing it just posting here :p

FYI - I'm a contributor to the Labour Research Department (mainly on TUPE issues) and a member of the TUC strategy board, as well as being a past PCS TU rep/chair etc.
 
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I love how one of my colleagues doesn't seem to here when she was complaining yesterday she wouldn't be able to make it in because of the strike.
 
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