Study Confirms Marijuana Can Help In Arthritis

CB2 receptors are one of the two types of pathways activated by chemicals in marijuana. However, only CB1 receptors are responsible for the high.

Interesting, so they just need to design a chemical compound to directly activate this receptor, and forget about growing weed.
 
Oh looks there are 16 of them already

A
AM404
Anandamide
2-Arachidonyl glyceryl ether

C
Cannabidiol
Cannabinol
Caryophyllene

C cont.
CP 55,940

G
GW-405,833

H
HU-308

J
JWH-015
JWH-018
JWH-073

J cont.
JWH-133

L
L-759,633

T
Tetrahydrocannabinol

V
Virodhamine


I wonder if any have side effects which are unpleasant, or mean you shouldn't use them.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
CB2 receptors are one of the two types of pathways activated by chemicals in marijuana. However, only CB1 receptors are responsible for the high.

Interesting, so they just need to design a chemical compound to directly activate this receptor, and forget about growing weed.
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Why?

Option #1

Arthritis sufferer is permitted to grow his own pot and consumes it either by smoking, or if he wants to eliminate the biggest risks from consuming cannabis, by mixing it with chocolate cake. Once set up costs are covered, medication is essentially free at the point of use.

Option #2

"Welcome Foundation" (Or whoever) commercially produces cannabis and then develops method of removing "Fun" element (or develops synthetic "Fun_Free" chemical concoction) which can then be marketed to the NHS for circa £4000/year! :eek: ! or more!

(I just picked one of the examples at random, I dont know how much the others cost but I imagine they are comparable)

Oh, I see! :(


I wonder if any have side effects which are unpleasant, or mean you shouldn't use them.
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I think the only side effect that the authorities are really concerned about is whether or not the medication is pleasurable! cant have that can we! Medicine must always taste bad, The badder the better!
 
Orionaut said:
Why?

Option #1

Arthritis sufferer is permitted to grow his own pot and consumes it either by smoking, or if he wants to eliminate the biggest risks from consuming cannabis, by mixing it with chocolate cake. Once set up costs are covered, medication is essentially free at the point of use.

Option #2

"Welcome Foundation" (Or whoever) commercially produces cannabis and then develops method of removing "Fun" element (or develops synthetic "Fun_Free" chemical concoction) which can then be marketed to the NHS for circa £4000/year! :eek: ! or more!

(I just picked one of the examples at random, I dont know how much the others cost but I imagine they are comparable)

Oh, I see! :(




I think the only side effect that the authorities are really concerned about is whether or not the medication is pleasurable! cant have that can we! Medicine must always taste bad, The badder the better!
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Not everyone wants to get high? If I needed medication for arthritis I wouldn't want to have to be high all the time for it to work.
 
In the US, there's a chap who owns a dispensary who has actually created a cannabis plant which has no psychoactive effects, only the general pain relief. There's a very interesting program where this chap comes in with his son, who has severe epilepsy. The child can barely talk (he's about 7), but he has so many fits a day that he just can't be a normal child. So this plant, they make it into oil, and the father of this child gave the child the oil, and he went from fitting 20+ times a day (can't remember quite how many) to a fit every 4-5 days, and he wasn't even getting high.

Benefits like this, where the quality of life of a person is improved so so so much, and where they're not getting any of the "adverse" effects, make an amazing case for medical MMJ.

I used it at uni for recreation, but it also really helped me manage my crohn's. My mother is also undergoing chemotherapy at the moment (coming to the end, thank ****) and lost her appetite for a long time. If only she toked!
 
Orionaut said:
Why?

Option #1

Arthritis sufferer is permitted to grow his own pot and consumes it either by smoking, or if he wants to eliminate the biggest risks from consuming cannabis, by mixing it with chocolate cake. Once set up costs are covered, medication is essentially free at the point of use.

Option #2

"Welcome Foundation" (Or whoever) commercially produces cannabis and then develops method of removing "Fun" element (or develops synthetic "Fun_Free" chemical concoction) which can then be marketed to the NHS for circa £4000/year! :eek: ! or more!

(I just picked one of the examples at random, I dont know how much the others cost but I imagine they are comparable)

Oh, I see! :(




I think the only side effect that the authorities are really concerned about is whether or not the medication is pleasurable! cant have that can we! Medicine must always taste bad, The badder the better!
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I might be wrong, but my understanding is that there are some potentially carcinogenic compounds within the various grown items, so taking the effective agent, using it directly might be best.
 
Orionaut said:
Why?

Option #1

Arthritis sufferer is permitted to grow his own pot and consumes it either by smoking, or if he wants to eliminate the biggest risks from consuming cannabis, by mixing it with chocolate cake. Once set up costs are covered, medication is essentially free at the point of use.

Option #2

"Welcome Foundation" (Or whoever) commercially produces cannabis and then develops method of removing "Fun" element (or develops synthetic "Fun_Free" chemical concoction) which can then be marketed to the NHS for circa £4000/year! :eek: ! or more!

(I just picked one of the examples at random, I dont know how much the others cost but I imagine they are comparable)

Oh, I see! :(




I think the only side effect that the authorities are really concerned about is whether or not the medication is pleasurable! cant have that can we! Medicine must always taste bad, The badder the better!
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Because if I want to take medication for arthritis I don't want to be absolutely stoned out of my mind?
 
I smoked a marijuana once. I sat on my mates kitchen floor giggling for a couple of hours. Never touched it since.

If at some point in the future I get arthritis I seriously do not want to go through that. Give me something nice and synthetic.

I have no qualms about research into the plant, but lets not pretend its the saviour of the human race, efficacious in every case.
 
Woden said:
I smoked a marijuana once. I sat on my mates kitchen floor giggling for a couple of hours. Never touched it since.

If at some point in the future I get arthritis I seriously do not want to go through that. Give me something nice and synthetic.

I have no qualms about research into the plant, but lets not pretend its the saviour of the human race, efficacious in every case.
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pahahahahahaha lightweight, i mean who does this though? Seriously. And a couple of hours? gimme a break.
 
Frodo1805 said:
pahahahahahaha lightweight, i mean who does this though? Seriously. And a couple of hours? gimme a break.
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I actually don't know how much I smoked, I'd never done it before and haven't since. I did just sit giggling the whole time, everything was funny. I can see why people do it, it just isn't for me.

I am definitely a lightweight. Even with alcohol, I drink ales or whisky and 3 has me more than tipsy.

I just don't think it is a good idea to have a nation of pensioners buzzing off their **** half their day.
 
Dunks said:
Because if I want to take medication for arthritis I don't want to be absolutely stoned out of my mind?
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The amount you need (I imagine) for pain control is likely to be a lot lower than that for getting totally stoned, though I take your point.

And in any case, plenty of people take opiates for pain control!

However, I dont see why people should not have the choice.

The drugs debate is a complex one however, to my mind, there seems something logically absurd about criminalising somebody for growing a plant, and therefore there seems something logically absurd about criminalising what somebody chose to do with it having grown it (As long as they only do it to themselves!)

This is quite a different thing to selling/trading or enhancing the active properties beyond their natural levels by use of physical and/or chemical processes. I am quite happy to see legal restrictions on these activities. as indeed there are concerning the otherwise perfectly legal activity of home brewing (Which incidentally was illegal up to the 1960's unless one had purchased a license)

Treating home grown cannabis in the same way as home brewed alcohol would seem to be a reasonable compromise to me. The only people who might suffer are the people who currently engage in commercial (illegal) cannabis production and trade.

And the "Welcome Foundation" of course...! ;)
 
godinman said:
Not everyone wants to get high? If I needed medication for arthritis I wouldn't want to have to be high all the time for it to work.
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Yup, I have terrible joint pain, the only thing that touches it(I should say the weakest thing I can take which touches it) is codeine, ibuprofen helps with the swelling but the actual pain needs codeine or something more potent.

However, I dislike the foggy feeling I get when on codeine. I really don't enjoy it, I never enjoyed weed the few times I tried it earlier in life. It's just not my thing. On codeine right now for migraines, which again anything less doesn't help and infact codeine doesn't help much when it's as bad a migraine as I'm having today.

It's part of this idea that if you legalise drugs everyone would instantly become an addict because everyone loves being high....... Most people I've known to smoke weed throughout my life like it now and then but don't love it. I've known really 3 real all day smokers of weed and two of them were friends, and none of their friends smoked with them except on occasion.

If weed helped my pain, arthritic/joint or migraines I would actually take it when pain was overwhelmingly bad because, I have to take codeine in those situations anyway so being high from weed wouldn't be worse in that sense. Codeine causes so many other problems though.
 
Woden said:
I actually don't know how much I smoked, I'd never done it before and haven't since. I did just sit giggling the whole time, everything was funny. I can see why people do it, it just isn't for me.

I am definitely a lightweight. Even with alcohol, I drink ales or whisky and 3 has me more than tipsy.

I just don't think it is a good idea to have a nation of pensioners buzzing off their **** half their day.
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ok cool man, my bad. u could have been smoking the chong bud thats why u was buzzin ur **** off lol.
 
I can just imagine a grandma offering her grandkids a joint as she can't be arsed to fetch the Werther's Originals :D
 
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