Replacement suggestions for the Boxster S
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How about go down the classic route And get a car which is going up in value. Keep for a couple of years and flip it... E30 M3?
It will feel completely different to a modern car and in the future when you get back into something modern then it will be a pleasant surprise again.
It will feel completely different to a modern car and in the future when you get back into something modern then it will be a pleasant surprise again.
S2000.
Get a 2004-2006 model, and then fit:
Baffled sump,oil catch tank, decent tyres, get a full geometry setup at a decent place, get a new intake + exhaust manifold & exhaust, Hondata/aem EMS and remap.
Use change for loads of track days and tuition.
It will sound fantastic, go well and still have a reasonable degree of practicality. A good example looked after well will have a decent depreciation curve during your ownership too.
Get a 2004-2006 model, and then fit:
Baffled sump,oil catch tank, decent tyres, get a full geometry setup at a decent place, get a new intake + exhaust manifold & exhaust, Hondata/aem EMS and remap.
Use change for loads of track days and tuition.
It will sound fantastic, go well and still have a reasonable degree of practicality. A good example looked after well will have a decent depreciation curve during your ownership too.
I think you have to be a real enthusiast for an M5, not someone that has a passing fancy for a Mustang.
Op says he's not 'massively bothered' about running costs... again I don't see that align with M5 ownership.
Buy an M5 because you want an M5, not because you suddenly don't like your Boxster anymore
Oh and it has more than 'ample' power lol.
I think you have to be a real enthusiast for an M5, not someone that has a passing fancy for a Mustang.
Op says he's not 'massively bothered' about running costs... again I don't see that align with M5 ownership.
Buy an M5 because you want an M5, not because you suddenly don't like your Boxster anymore
Oh and it has more than 'ample' power lol.
True enough, I guess I was testing to see just how bothered he is about costs!!
Strikes me he's after something different to the Porker, insists on manual and wants grunt,
Tbh I never thought I'd particularly like / want an M5 over an M3, especially having driven a few e46 variants, then I tried the M5, my opinion changed completely....
I'm an old fart though and like big things with oomph!!
Perhaps he would find the experience similar?
Seems he's lost as to what to get, that's my suggestion, at the very least, try one.
Ah yes, FWD cars handle awfully dont they.
How about a second hand current model Fiesta ST
Although your comparison of your Boxster to a 150hp fwd car above isnt useful as you have already said you basically want a car as fast as your porsche give or take...
Either way the Fiestas are pretty nippy, Meant to be the most "FUN" car you can by these days other than a GT86 which is out of your budget (And too slow)
Basically, like i said, You need to make a list of priorities because you are contradicting yourself an awful lot at the moment
Have you actually looked at how much an E30 M3 is worth now?
Also i would say they have peaked now to be honest but the rattiest are about 13k A semi decent basic (Lowest power amount ) M3 is about 28k,
One you would actually want to one is around 35k and the best E30's are upwards of 50k to around 100k for a Evo II model
I think he would need an EVo2 because he wants the powerssss
Thanks for the comments everyone.
Potentially yes, although I would probably do it again as owning such a great car at 21 was an amazing experience. It wasn't a drag on finances and I didn't need anything more than 2 seats. I could have got something in between my Boxster and previous car and then now moved to a Boxster now.
I'm not sure it's really me, I like the e39 but not enough to really want one badly. In terms of running costs I'd be happy to pay what I assume a e39 M5 would cost to run.
If it wasn't an auto I'd certainly be tempted, shame really.
I'm not too bothered about a car holding it's value. I've lost roughly £10k over 3 years on the Boxster and I have no real attachment to 'classics'. I never grew up dreaming of this car or that car - in fact until I was 17 I had literally no interest in cars at all and couldn't have told you what either of my parents drove.
That sounds good, but something someone with a real interest in an S2000 would do. It's also the complete opposite engine type to the one I like. If I was going down a 'cheap' fun car I think a 350Z would be better.
Just to pick up on this point again, my interest of a Mustang is more than 'passing' My dad owned 2 whilst he lived in the USA and a further one about 6 or 7 years ago shortly before he died unexpectedly. The car was sold to pay for funeral costs and I always loved the looks, size and overall image of the Mustang. In the same way an e39 M5 is Fox's halo car, a Mustang is mine
Potentially yes, although I would probably do it again as owning such a great car at 21 was an amazing experience. It wasn't a drag on finances and I didn't need anything more than 2 seats. I could have got something in between my Boxster and previous car and then now moved to a Boxster now.
I think you have to be a real enthusiast for an M5, not someone that has a passing fancy for a Mustang.
Op says he's not 'massively bothered' about running costs... again I don't see that align with M5 ownership.
Buy an M5 because you want an M5, not because you suddenly don't like your Boxster anymore
Oh and it has more than 'ample' power lol.
I'm not sure it's really me, I like the e39 but not enough to really want one badly. In terms of running costs I'd be happy to pay what I assume a e39 M5 would cost to run.
If it wasn't an auto I'd certainly be tempted, shame really.
I'm not too bothered about a car holding it's value. I've lost roughly £10k over 3 years on the Boxster and I have no real attachment to 'classics'. I never grew up dreaming of this car or that car - in fact until I was 17 I had literally no interest in cars at all and couldn't have told you what either of my parents drove.
That sounds good, but something someone with a real interest in an S2000 would do. It's also the complete opposite engine type to the one I like. If I was going down a 'cheap' fun car I think a 350Z would be better.
Just to pick up on this point again, my interest of a Mustang is more than 'passing' My dad owned 2 whilst he lived in the USA and a further one about 6 or 7 years ago shortly before he died unexpectedly. The car was sold to pay for funeral costs and I always loved the looks, size and overall image of the Mustang. In the same way an e39 M5 is Fox's halo car, a Mustang is mine
Hi James
Have you ever done a trackday in the Boxster? By the way this would not invalidate warranty, Porsche allow trackday use, hey they expect it.
13k can get you some very nice cars and you don't seem too focused on the type of car, you just want something with good lucks and makes a nice noise, hence the Mustang idea.
Problem is now, last year 13k would have got you a V8 Mustang, now it will get your something ropey or a V6 unless you get lucky. With Mustang coming to the UK the current models are now more exclusive and rare, plus in some ways have truer US/Muscle styling which is preferred by American UK car enthusiast, plus the UK version will no doubt be 40k, as such boosting values of second hand cars. Just like 997 Porsche values have held as the 991 was launched so expensive.
For 13k there are many example of great cars you could get that look good and make a great noise. You could get some form of AMG Mercedes and have class and amazing soundtrack, or something like a spotless E46 M3, though its just a BMW which is downside.
What you won't do is really get a better handling and more sorted car than a Boxster, but you can certainly find something rarer, better sounding, better looking and a lot faster.
Is 13k all you expect to get for the Boxster or are you just putting some cash to one side?
I say BUY A MUSTANG, find a good one, it was and still is the car which made me the grin the most and I kept the longest, I even owned it twice. Plus they are a real platform, you can transform them into amazing handling cars which insane performance and it can be done without spending stupid amounts of money.
Just get a Stang, you will never bore of it, they are a true occasion and absolutely bullit proof, they simply do not break down, just too basic.
Hi James
Have you ever done a trackday in the Boxster? By the way this would not invalidate warranty, Porsche allow trackday use, hey they expect it.
I've done a trackday in a Cayman S (the Porsche Silverstone thing) which I absolutely loved.
13k can get you some very nice cars and you don't seem too focused on the type of car, you just want something with good lucks and makes a nice noise, hence the Mustang idea.
Problem is now, last year 13k would have got you a V8 Mustang, now it will get your something ropey or a V6 unless you get lucky. With Mustang coming to the UK the current models are now more exclusive and rare, plus in some ways have truer US/Muscle styling which is preferred by American UK car enthusiast, plus the UK version will no doubt be 40k, as such boosting values of second hand cars. Just like 997 Porsche values have held as the 991 was launched so expensive.
For 13k there are many example of great cars you could get that look good and make a great noise. You could get some form of AMG Mercedes and have class and amazing soundtrack, or something like a spotless E46 M3, though its just a BMW which is downside.
What you won't do is really get a better handling and more sorted car than a Boxster, but you can certainly find something rarer, better sounding, better looking and a lot faster.
Is 13k all you expect to get for the Boxster or are you just putting some cash to one side?
I say BUY A MUSTANG, find a good one, it was and still is the car which made me the grin the most and I kept the longest, I even owned it twice. Plus they are a real platform, you can transform them into amazing handling cars which insane performance and it can be done without spending stupid amounts of money.
Just get a Stang, you will never bore of it, they are a true occasion and absolutely bullit proof, they simply do not break down, just too basic.
I remember first looking 2 years ago and there were loads of 2005/2006 V8 GT's for £12k, now I can see maybe 1 or 2!
Looking on AT I see 2007 3.4S Boxsters with around the same mileage up for anywhere between £11k and £13k, no idea what mine will actually go for mind. I do have 12 months OPC warranty on my car though.
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How much did you buy the Boxster for? Was it 25k
This Mustang, is lovely:-
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ford/mustang/ford-mustang-gt-2005-manual/2015404
I know your saying 13k budget, but seriously don't buy a dog for 13k when 15k would get you a far cleaner example!
Though the one I linked too, looks exceptional for 12.5k, it really does, either a bargain or something being hidden.....
Just to pick up on this point again, my interest of a Mustang is more than 'passing' My dad owned 2 whilst he lived in the USA and a further one about 6 or 7 years ago shortly before he died unexpectedly. The car was sold to pay for funeral costs and I always loved the looks, size and overall image of the Mustang. In the same way an e39 M5 is Fox's halo car, a Mustang is mine
My 'passing' comment was tongue in cheek. A mustang may be your halo car, but if you were dead set on getting one, this thread wouldn't have taken the direction it has. I think you should get one, but the right one.
Fox is never going to buy an E39 M5, he knows the time for this has passed. Likewise I'm not going to suggest he buys a 'stang instead
Amazing cars, but I think I prefer the Mustang.
Boxster was £23k but that 'included' 2 years of the OPC warranty 'worth' £1.8k.
I've been looking at that Mustang (it's on AT as well) and there must be something wrong with it. It's been up a while and looking on owners clubs there are tons of people after cars exactly like that and nobody has snapped it up yet.
My 'passing' comment was tongue in cheek. A mustang may be your halo car, but if you were dead set on getting one, this thread wouldn't have taken the direction it has. I think you should get one, but the right one.
Fox is never going to buy an E39 M5, he knows the time for this has passed. Likewise I'm not going to suggest he buys a 'stang instead
Oh I know it was tougue in cheek, just adding some background information as to why I've always been after a Mustang. Providing one is in budget and I can get insured on it (which has never been the case until now) then I will get one
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Loads of people looking doesn't necessarily mean they're walking around with the cash to buy. It's always worth a gander yourself....
Amazing cars, but I think I prefer the Mustang.
Boxster was £23k but that 'included' 2 years of the OPC warranty 'worth' £1.8k.
I've been looking at that Mustang (it's on AT as well) and there must be something wrong with it. It's been up a while and looking on owners clubs there are tons of people after cars exactly like that and nobody has snapped it up yet.
Oh I know it was tougue in cheek, just adding some background information as to why I've always been after a Mustang. Providing one is in budget and I can get insured on it (which has never been the case until now) then I will get one
Go and look at it!
Many people did not look at my M3 I purchased because the price was very low, so thought there was an issue, turns out its being a superb well maintained car.
Some people under-price stuff, the guy I got the M3 off was a millionaire he was not interested in waiting for it to sell, his wife had said get rid, so he set it about 1k below market value to shift it, I got in first.
I think I might have a look, the issue is my 3 years NCB doesn't come in until May, it's a crap time of year to try and sell my car (and I do really need to sell it before buying the next car). So even if it was perfect I don't think the timing is right.
I have got all of next week off though so I may give them a call.
The other issue is I really need to contact a current owner and ask for a passenger ride etc.... as I've only previously driven the auto. I want to make sure the manual is what I want. I can understand a seller not wanting to let me drive their car on DOC either.
A Plan are coming back to me on Monday with some prices for 2 years NCB and 3 years NCB.
I have got all of next week off though so I may give them a call.
The other issue is I really need to contact a current owner and ask for a passenger ride etc.... as I've only previously driven the auto. I want to make sure the manual is what I want. I can understand a seller not wanting to let me drive their car on DOC either.
A Plan are coming back to me on Monday with some prices for 2 years NCB and 3 years NCB.
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No you don't. You prefer the Corvette. Get it bought. You're local too, so that way I can come and
The manual on the Mustang is very good, unlike the Corvette which is like a trucks gearbox, not precise at all.
The issue will be with a manual is if you can get used to changing gear with the opposite hand, driving an LHD car took me 2hrs to adapt too, changing gear with the other hands took like 2 weeks.
Manual is superior, but the AUTO is OK in the Mustang but by no means sporty or upto European standards, its a true old style auto that's very accomplished.
So Adrian Flux quoted me £575, and I phoned APlan on Friday who said they'd make some calls to underwriters and get back to me today. They came back and said they couldn't insure me - age and lack of experience with a LHD car, but if I do get the car and come back to them after owning it for a year they'll do a good price.
What other insurers have people used for LHD cars?
What other insurers have people used for LHD cars?