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GPU market up—Intel and Nvidia graphics winners in Q4, AMD down

Suarez7 said:
I agree with most of your post but not this bit, nvidia cards tend to run cooler/throttle at lower temps, I'm also pretty sure they have lower RMA % than AMD as well, this was discussed a while ago on here before the real mining craze hit.
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They may run cooler/throttle at lower temps and may have slightly lower RMA % don't know if this is true but just humbling what your saying however Nvidia cards are not used for mining where a vast amount of inexperienced people are jumping on the bandwagon and trying to make profit and don't have much idea of air flow and how the cards work in terms of keeping cool.

So my point was if Nvidia cards were just as capable or better as AMD cards at mining they would suffer the same fate from these inexperienced people as obviously people would be using NVidia cards too. Doesn't matter if they run slightly cooler they will still burn if not set up right as it sat right next to each other where minimal air reaches them.
 
MjFrosty said:
Lol at it's not complicated. Yore right it's not... So not sure why you're failing to grasp it Humbug. You don need a degree in electrical engineering to understand its adverse effects.
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Is this why you keep insisting on it?

Clearly you think you understand better than the rest of us, so why don't you educate us.

I'm listening.
 
r7slayer said:
So my point was if Nvidia cards were just as capable or better as AMD cards at mining they would suffer the same fate from these inexperienced people as obviously people would be using NVidia cards too. Doesn't matter if they run slightly cooler they will still burn if not set up right as it sat right next to each other where minimal air reaches them.
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It does matter though as they seem a lot more strict on letting cards be pushed passed their limits.
 
Suarez7 said:
It does matter though as they seem a lot more strict on letting cards be pushed passed their limits.
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How are the AMD cards which are being used being pushed passed their limits while running on stock clocks 24/7? Also so your saying Nvidia cards wont burn with minimal airflow running on stock clocks @ 100% pretty much 24/7?
 
r7slayer said:
How are the AMD cards which are being used being pushed passed their limits while running on stock clocks 24/7? Also so your saying Nvidia cards wont burn with minimal airflow running on stock clocks @ 100% pretty much 24/7?
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nvidia cards get throttled heavily until they're under a certain temperature whilst AMD has throttling it doesn't seem to cool them down much/isn't as harsh.

There's a reason one brand has higher RMA % and I doubt it's down to build quality. It's well known nvidia are more restrictive on power and temps.
 
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Suarez7 said:
nvidia cards get throttled heavily until they're under a certain temperature whilst AMD has throttling it doesn't seem to cool them down much/isn't as harsh.

There's a reason one brand has higher RMA % and I doubt it's down to build quality. It's well known nvidia are more restrictive on power and temps.
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Okay fair play to your sir ;) You do explain your side well however I still believe in my opinion lol. :p
 
Here's a tidbit- the Sapphire rep on OCN himself warned against mining 24/7 and said cards aren't designed to run under full load like that.
 
vsg28 said:
Here's a tidbit- the Sapphire rep on OCN himself warned against mining 24/7 and said cards aren't designed to run under full load like that.
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Wouldn't believe a word most reps say tbh. No doubt just a safety precaution they've been told to put out there and something they've never really tested.
 
vsg28 said:
Here's a tidbit- the Sapphire rep on OCN himself warned against mining 24/7 and said cards aren't designed to run under full load like that.
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Suarez7 said:
Wouldn't believe a word most reps say tbh. No doubt just a safety precaution they've been told to put out there and something they've never really tested.
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I would take a reps advice more so than some of the forum users here. Head/Sand blah!
 
Correct and I would have said they are not meant for that running.

They may have a lot of sales now due to it but I bet a lot of RMA's also.
 
vsg28 said:
Here's a tidbit- the Sapphire rep on OCN himself warned against mining 24/7 and said cards aren't designed to run under full load like that.
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That's probably correct, I don't understand how people can claim that running a graphics card at full load 24/7 will not cause quicker degradation of the GPU. Even the best capacitors, such as Japanese 10K black capacitors (used in high end motherboards), have a lifetime of 10000 hours when operating at full capacity, that's just over a year.

The components used in high-end graphics cards will be about the same quality as this - with some components probably having a lower quality, so when they finally give up the ghost you're looking at a GPU with a lifetime of less than a year when mining. Of course there will be exceptions as always with the silicon lottery, but that will be the general "trend".

So, no, I wouldn't be happy to receive a graphics card from someone whom used it for 24/7 mining for a long time as I know it would have significant component degradation.
 
Stanners said:
No but he maybe knows more about electronics and his products than you maybe?
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He most likely is more knowledgeable in most areas but I doubt he's actually done mining 24/7 for a long period like Gibbo has.

There's no doubt they'll degrade quicker that's basic electronics but as has already been said it probably means 2 years of a 8-10 year lifespan which means nothing to 99% of us.
 
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