Haha.
One - eating an animal killed in accordance to the law, and that is presumed in an ethical fashion as the law dictates.
Two - killing an animal for personal pleasure.
The difference is enough so that is does not "amount to the same thing"
do you think an 18 week jail sentence is enough for this?
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Haha.
One - eating an animal killed in accordance to the law, and that is presumed in an ethical fashion as the law dictates.
Two - killing an animal for personal pleasure.
The difference is enough so that is does not "amount to the same thing"
What a stupid comment.
This obviously risks getting very off topic, but I feel I should challenge your assertion.
If we can believe that vegetarians don't die from not eating meat, then we can believe that eating meat is optional. If eating meat is optional, why do we do it? mostly for pleasure.
If we are eating an animal mostly for pleasure, rather than for any life-sustaining need, then surely the death of that animal is directly caused by our pleasure in consuming its flesh. How is that pleasure any higher morally than taking pleasure in the killing of an animal?
While he obviously deserves punishment, declaring/demanding that he be beaten/tortured/murdered is a ludicrous, emotional response. Inflicting extreme harm to this person wouldn't undo what he's done, nor would it stop other people doing it. All it does is satisfy some people's primitive need to draw blood/be violent.
As for 18 weeks? I don't know. He'll also have to, rightfully, deal with the consequences when he comes out. (career, friends/family, etc)
As for 18 weeks? I don't know. He'll also have to, rightfully, deal with the consequences when he comes out. (career, friends/family, etc)
I think the only way you'd be a hypocrite is if the meat you ate was specifically from domestic road killed cats.
For a start, the quality of life and pain in death is substantially different.
Beyond that, I agree the morality gets pretty confusing.
Personally, I am happy to eat meat knowing that the animals were not raised or killed in cruelty - and would be willing to end the animals life myself should that be necessary to eating meat, though I will probably eat less chicken and more cow etc...
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No, it was an injured cat, now after someone has essentially bludgeoned it to death its a dead cat some some **** drunk decided it would be fun to kick it around.
If he had ANY inclination "put it out of its misery" then a sharp twist to the neck would've been the correct action most would take.
anyway the article states someone stopped in car to look at it, parked in front of it to stop other vehicles hitting it and called the RSPCA and asked them to leave the animal alone... did he?
No him and his mates told them to go away and preceeded to kick the life out of the poor animal, the RSPCA were already on their way! ******* idiot
Utter disgrace, should be a ban on keeping animals for life and the 16 weeks shouldv'e been longer IMHO. I appreciate it wasnt a person/child but does it really matter, obviously planned from the point he told the other responsible person to go away to kick the cat about.
Because all of the animals in the meat industry are bludgeoned to death in what would be a horrendously painfull way?
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^^ This. It's a horrible thing to do, the guy now has a criminal record and prison time.
Pleasure of taste = pleasure of punting a cat that's already injured.
Okay mate sure.
Kick in the head or bolt in the head, which would you prefer?
Pleasure of taste = pleasure of having an otherwise living, breathing, feeling animal killed for the sole reason that you enjoy consuming it's body parts with your chips.
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a long way off topic now.
I'll reiterate:
18 weeks seems proportionate to me, it was a nasty thing to do.
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I agree.
I love cats more than is usual but... It is just a cat.
He is an ex-soldier, we make em like "that", some more than others.
That's ******* horrible. People like that should be given a similar kicking.
I do actually think this is suitable for some.
I also spot hell being mentioned, nothing religious happened?
Are you seriously asking what, in practical terms, is the difference between regulated mass-meat production, and kicking a common house pet to death in the street?
If so, then you really aren't too bright.
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Injured cat or not we have painless injections to ease suffering, if you had a pet would you kick it into the air and against walls like a football to put it down.....?
Maybe you should educate me on the practical difference (in terms of "the fate and suffering of the animal") of the two. I'm not too bright, you see.
He's blinded himself into thinking a pet dog/cat is different from a cow, probably because a cow isn't as cute as a cat.
If he was putting it out of its misery a good stamp to the head would have been appropriate. He was doing this as a drunken arse not a concerned animal lover, a longer sentance would have been ok by me.
Reminds me of the simliar set of events that led me to put a cat out of its misery with my car jack arm.... middle of the road at rushour and car in front seems to stop then try reversing etc... get out to see a few people surrounding pretty much two halves of a poor cat that had been squished... the top half was alive and crying in a sort of drawn out death whine. The bottom half was a patty... liver, kidneys etc now mush. The people were all like "call the rspca" and i was livid. I got the jack from my car and brained it in one shot, killed it stone dead. Some big fat woman starts saying to call police and have me arrested and so on, i just bent down got the collar from the cat and went back to car. I phoned the owner when i was parked up and explained and she was thanking me for doing what i did.... sad but had to be done.
This jerk did what he did for kicks by the sound of it.
Reminds me of the simliar set of events that led me to put a cat out of its misery with my car jack arm.... middle of the road at rushour and car in front seems to stop then try reversing etc... get out to see a few people surrounding pretty much two halves of a poor cat that had been squished... the top half was alive and crying in a sort of drawn out death whine. The bottom half was a patty... liver, kidneys etc now mush. The people were all like "call the rspca" and i was livid. I got the jack from my car and brained it in one shot, killed it stone dead. Some big fat woman starts saying to call police and have me arrested and so on, i just bent down got the collar from the cat and went back to car. I phoned the owner when i was parked up and explained and she was thanking me for doing what i did.... sad but had to be done.
This jerk did what he did for kicks by the sound of it.