UK spy agency intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users

Yeah as said Nothing surprises me, well this did a bit to be honest :P

Can they be prosecuted for having child porn ?? I bet some of those images were underage kids being kids.

If anyone wants to see my wang, email in trust.

(Please hope i dont get any emails.)
 
meh I dont believe that

that "document" is probably a study on a possible way of doing that with webcams, not proof that they are

as for GCHQ perving at your webcam? no they are not - they are not interested in seeing your todge

its just an article to keep the Snowden story alive - which has been going on along time now, you really think that if Snowden knew about this he would wait months before releasing it ? rubbish it would have been on the front page on day 1

yeah its scary that GHCQ have the sort of expertise but there are loads of webcam vulnerability hacks in the wild anyway, I trust GCHQ more than some script kiddie
 
Lysander said:
Again, I'll quote this from Snowden in a recent interview. It answers your point exactly, and anyone who says they have nothing to hide/it's just Intelligence's job:
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really don't see the issue... most of my communications, personal data etc.. are currently stored by facebook, google, the NHS, my local GP and my employer(s).... having some data stored passively by my own country's signals intelligence organisation isn't going to keep me awake at night... frankly they're rather far down the list as far as orgasnisations who I'd worry about my personal data being stored by.
 
The level of analysis appears remarkably poor,
all a suspect has to do to avoid being caught in a bulk search is to call themselves "Pippa Middleton" rather than "Muslim Jihad"?

I can't see that a crude fishing expedition counts as "proportional" either.


A good job that the insane cost of these intelligence operations is vastly outweighed by
the multicultural enrichment that such groups bring to the UK.
 
Amp34 said:
Are you fine with someone putting a camera in your bedroom just to make sure you aren't one?
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If someone in a similar organisation really wanted to put a camera in your bedroom and had good reason to do so then they'd probably go get a warrant and do so regardless of whether you like it or not.

For once the idea of someone coming in to your house to have a look round isn't that far off what actually happened...
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For once? Its hardly something new... people have had actual houses searched for decades.
 
olivier renault said:
Ah, but the Internet isn't your bedroom! You sent that information away on the interwebs. Well then, it's practically public (although it is not)!

Besides, they are probably more interested in the meta-data. Who you talk to, where from, what time, ect... That is more amenable to pattern searching. Bit like targeted / contextual advertisement.
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Not in this case. They were/are using facial recognition data to scan all the images and then display ones that may look similar to people they are looking for.

In no way is it practically public, unless of course you suggest all the private electronic conversations and images/video you have ever had with significant others is "practically" public?

dowie said:
If someone in a similar organisation really wanted to put a camera in your bedroom and had good reason to do so then they'd probably go get a warrant and do so regardless of whether you like it or not.



For once? Its hardly something new... people have had actual houses searched for decades.
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Searched wholesale? It's the equivalent of the security services searching the houses of an entire town "just in case" they can match something with something else. A court would never grant a warrant for that.

The whole point is they aren't tracking specific targets... GCHQ are harvesting all data and then sorting through it. Much like the camera in your bedroom analogy. They haven't got a warrant even though the vast majority of those caught in the net haven't done anything wrong.
 
nobody in the uk cares. the rest of the civilised world is up in arms about the spying revelations but in good old blighty there is nothing anyone cares about anymore. they could fly HL2 style drones outside your house and snap your face on a morning before work and nobody would bat an eyelid..

sleep walking zombie nation.
 
phill1978 said:
nobody in the uk cares. the rest of the civilised world is up in arms about the spying revelations but in good old blighty there is nothing anyone cares about anymore. they could fly HL2 style drones outside your house and snap your face on a morning before work and nobody would bat an eyelid..

sleep walking zombie nation.
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You know why? Because there is sweet FA we can do about it. If we protest, they will simply stop one method of collection and start another.

The governments have and always will collect data on us. It's that simple.

And with the whole world connected it even easier now.
 
teaboy5 said:
You know why? Because there is sweet FA we can do about it. If we protest, they will simply stop one method of collection and start another.

The governments have and always will collect data on us. It's that simple.

And with the whole world connected it even easier now.
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doesnt make it right. theres sweet fa because the electoral system is flawed and broken and people have lost faith in it, hence low turnouts. we also have no obvious bill of rights, which could be a good start and taught in schools. Also without being nasty, the average uk middle class voting citizen doesnt understand tech and is extremley trusting of authority. The average uk lower class citizen doesnt own a brain yet..

(in before someone says we are a classless society, would be nice but no)

what i dont get is why they ruin the image of the police and scotland yard with this? we have a legendary force when it comes to crime investigation and real policing yet these baffoons dont appear to be using smart metrics just a massive dragnet part funded by the us. due to the average citizens slowness with these matters there bound to lump in the force with all of this further escalating hate on the ground for mr and mrs plod.. which is bad as lots of hard work has been done to keep public relations.

as a nation we generally trust our services to do the right thing, and they generally do because we are a lot better than other countries typically, but this is way off course..
 
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Firstly, not good (close friend *ahem* studying abroad at the time..), and secondly (and most importantly).. if they had the capacity to do this 6 years ago, wtf are they capable of right now?...
 
benneh said:
Firstly, not good (close friend *ahem* studying abroad at the time..), and secondly (and most importantly).. if they had the capacity to do this 6 years ago, wtf are they capable of right now?...
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and the bit where you realise the depth of stuff they can do (watch this first)



if your that interested the full video
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dont get me wrong. we need a good functioning police and global operations unit but this story along with the others recently is just data mining at its cheapest and dirtiest ( at great expense to the tax payer)
 
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Amp34 said:
Searched wholesale? It's the equivalent of the security services searching the houses of an entire town "just in case" they can match something with something else. A court would never grant a warrant for that.
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No it really isn't... its looking at someone's face on a still from a webcam in order to compare with another face and identify the person behind the ID and who they communicate with...

The whole point is they aren't tracking specific targets... GCHQ are harvesting all data and then sorting through it. Much like the camera in your bedroom analogy. They haven't got a warrant even though the vast majority of those caught in the net haven't done anything wrong.
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They are tracking specific targets they can cast the net a bit wider and store data passively... they're not looking at data for ****s and giggles and they still require specific legal authorisation to actually look at that data as far as individuals in the UK are concerned.
 
Utter rot Dowie.
You serious think they collected 1.8 million images of random folks using yahoo and stored it without looking at any of it. Then sought a warrent each time they wished to view a picture.

Catch yourself on.

Just how would you propose they realised how much of the content they intercepted was pornography if they were not looking?
Utter rot.
 
I wonder how many images are underage girls and boys getting it on via webcam.

god damn pedo government

I bet if so,meone hacked yahoo screenshot every webcam currently active and saved them they would be going down as a pedo for sure
 
The documents also chronicle GCHQ's sustained struggle to keep the large store of sexually explicit imagery collected by Optic Nerve away from the eyes of its staff
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A whole new angle on staff viewing porn at work.
 
It's not surprising but what is more shocking is the general attitudes of some who think I'm not doing anything wrong so I don't care :rolleyes:

The other thing is we are all paying for this, the technology, the people all of gchq is paid for by us, the taxpayers. That alone outrages me, we are paying to be spied on ourselves
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Utter rot Dowie.
You serious think they collected 1.8 million images of random folks using yahoo and stored it without looking at any of it. Then sought a warrent each time they wished to view a picture.
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nope I said they require legal authorisation re: individuals in the UK... there are other people in the world who are not in the UK

Catch yourself on.

Just how would you propose they realised how much of the content they intercepted was pornography if they were not looking?
Utter rot.
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Who said they didn't look at any of it?
 
Lysander said:
This is happening with peoples' mobile phones NOW.

That front-facing camera is not for 'your' convenience.

People will say lolsander and tin foil hat/QUOTE]

Not mine, I've just put some blu tac over it:cool:

I hate the securicrats and their war on my freedom.
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