Fired and job seeking - No, not I

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Yer I know, this is a post about a friend. I don't think it's relevant if you believe me on this or not :)
I've never been in this situation, so cannot help him out.
So he's been in a job for a long period of time and for whatever reason he suddenly finds himself fired (no need to go into reasons right now).
The place of work never did references, simply a statement of employment between certain dates.
Obviously the guy is going to now be looking for a new job as soon as possible but knows almost certainly he'll be asked about his previous job/position. So what do you say in this situation?
Keep it honest and admit to being fired I'm guessing reduces the chance of person being employed. If he lies and says he was made redundant can that be checked? If he says he just left, can that be verified?

Can't give you any other information, not had a chance to talk to my mate again today. Just thought I'd get some initial thoughts.

Ta
 
It really depends if he was fired (i.e. on grounds of performance, conduct etc) or made redundant (i.e. role no longer existed etc).

Need more info on specifics before I can give more advice.
 
If he lies on his application for his next job he might end up getting fired from that as well...
 
I agree, its best to tell the truth from the start, if he ever slips up in converdation one day or another person from his previous company ever joins his new one there could be trouble.
 
Although they may not do specific references on performance etc they can legally say when he left and under what circumstances.
 
Im pretty sure its illegal for employers to give negative references. Id just tell them it wasnt challenging enough for him and wanted to look for a better position, also there was no possibility of moving up the company? As far as im aware employers can only give dates and position as a reference, ofc "off the record" comments will be hard to prove
 
"I left my last job"...

I doubt many companies will follow that up and ask if you were fired.

Saying why you left could be interesting, however "differences of opinion" maybe?
 
You cant say "John Smith was a useless idiot and i wouldnt trust him as far as i could throw him" but you can say "We terminated John Smith from our employment and on that basis we feel it would not be appropriate to give a reference at this time."

So i would always tell the truth.
 
If he was fired under a totting up procedure for several relatively minor issues like timekeeping that is one thing. However if it was due to gross negligence, dishonesty or other major issue, I would expect that could be communicated in confidence to any prospective new employer.
 
Thanks for the posts. I'm going to go and see him after I finish work today, so I'll get some more information out of him.
 
Amp34 said:
"I left my last job"...

I doubt many companies will follow that up and ask if you were fired.

Saying why you left could be interesting, however "differences of opinion" maybe?
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I would, i would definately follow up on somebody that left their job without another one to go to, even more so i this day and age where any vacant work placement is met with fierce competition. Employers can afford to be choosey.
 
i think it is, what is to stop someone who takes a dislike to you from telling lies to a potential future employer? There are laws to protect people for this very reason

saying that though, if you have been sacked for genuine reason your up poo creek, i mean your friend is
 
AndyCroft1982 said:
Im pretty sure its illegal for employers to give negative references.
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AndyCroft1982 said:
i think it is, what is to stop someone who takes a dislike to you from telling lies to a potential future employer?
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I wish people wouldn't keep spreading misinformation like this.

It's perfectly legal for them to state provable facts about you. If these facts happen to be negative (such as "Dave was 3 hours late for work every day"), then so be it.

However, many employers don't give these references, as unless the evidence is watertight, there can be legal implications.
 
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