It's here - Sharia law to be enshrined in UK legal system

The thing is though, this sort of stuff shouldn't cause people to have melt downs, I'd think it'd be more appropriate to just laugh at the guy and say "just no, it's not a Shariah controlled zone at all" and then berate him for thinking the sticker actually means anything.



Except he would assault you with his sharia mates and so he was put in jail. Violence is always used either as a first or second response by them. And he was not even brought up in the messed up part of the world called the middle east. He probably had a pretty normal upbringing with the other converts so make of it what you will than anyone regardless of race or origin can become an Islamic fundamentalist with warped views.

So how do you deal with that huge population of people? Laugh at it? Cower and appease them? Or do you erect a big ass wall like China did during the 7th century? Answers on a postcard please.
 
Inheritance (Provision for Family and Dependants) Act 1975.

Interesting. Wasn't aware of that. Though do have to say - looking at section 3 of that Act, it isn't quite cut and dried as 'they can vary it if it doesn't leave them enough'. Variety of factors are taken into account and if the person making a claim doesn't need to rely on the amount, I doubt a judge would decide to vary a will. There need to be good reasons on the applicant's part - not a lack of reasons on the deceased's part.
 
That's not true a few years ago a lot of the outcry about 'immigrants' was in relation to Polish people, more recently the outcry has been in relation to Romanian and Bulgarian people.

It is true, I'm just talking about a different situation, the ones who claim to be against immigration but their issues always lie with brown people, and their encounters are usually along the lines of "Herp derp, I was walking down the street and these two darkies were talking in this weird foreign language, on their way to a job interview for MYJOB. I hate when they don't integrate! THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO THE DOGS REDUCE IMMIGRATION! SEND THEM BACK!".
 
Because typically a Muslim is a brown Asian person, which is why the race card is often played. It's the same sort of thing as when people moan about immigrants, they very rarely complain about anyone that is white, the immigrants they get angry about are nearly always brown.

The reason here is that it's next to impossible to spot a white immigrant if they don't open their mouth.

Thanks for the clarification :-) True about white immigrants too. I book interpreters for non English-speaking patients and the most commonly requested language is actually Polish. Then again, can't really tell if they're immigrants or born here 2nd or 3rd gen.
 
The thing is though, this sort of stuff shouldn't cause people to have melt downs, I'd think it'd be more appropriate to just laugh at the guy and say "just no, it's not a Shariah controlled zone at all" and then berate him for thinking the sticker actually means anything.

You obviously havent seen the video where they are enforcing their rules then. they make a woman turn around as she showing too much skin and make a guy pour his beer away. They are very aggressive and threatening and the people seem to be scared of them and comply. Have a look for it on ********.

EDIT: Ha, it seems the video was filmed by that ginger guy: http://www.********.com/view?i=f71_1386420860
 
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It's the same sort of thing as when people moan about immigrants, they very rarely complain about anyone that is white, the immigrants they get angry about are nearly always brown.
Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about conflicting religious cultures.
And frankly I'm sick of Europeans getting the blame for something that isn't our fault.

Jews (we have the seconds largest population of Jews in Europe), Hindus, Sikhs, Buddists - all have roughly European compatible cultures.

That's why they fit in and you never hear a bad thing said against them


Muslims and the various African religions just don't.
their cultures are radically different (Female Genital Multilation, child brides, boy rape, devil possession etc ...long list is long)


You could stick as many brown Sikhs as you like into Stoke and you wouldn't notice a thing. You could plonk every Hasidic Jew in the country into my village and even I wouldn't notice.

Do the same with muslims (even pasty white ginger ones) and eventually there will be conflict. You can repeat this reckless multicultural experiment anywhere in the world and the news reporting will be identical.

This is not our problem, it is one of their own making.
 
Awful, religion should not run a country, even if it is just this.
Religion is personal, and I think that every country with an official religion is stupid.

Under true Islam, the Church and State are one, in their ideal situation.
So you can't make the statement you made in reference to Islam, as by it's existence, religion runs 'the country'.

They seek to expand this, until we all live in a blissful single state, governed by a religious law, which supersedes any laws of man.

In their case religion is not personal, religion just is, and they will never understand or try to comprehend your viewpoint, as you are simply 'wrong' and 'an infidel'.
 
Variety of factors are taken into account and if the person making a claim doesn't need to rely on the amount, I doubt a judge would decide to vary a will.

Well, the test is "are you dependant on the person who made the will". If you aren't, then end of story. And if you aren't, why would you be upset if you weren't left anything anyway?
 
Under true Islam, the Church and State are one, in their ideal situation.
So you can't make the statement you made in reference to Islam, as by it's existence, religion runs 'the country'.

They seek to expand this, until we all live in a blissful single state, governed by a religious law, which supersedes any laws of man.

In their case religion is not personal, religion just is, and they will never understand or try to comprehend your viewpoint, as you are simply 'wrong' and 'an infidel'.


Watch my previous youtube link "what the west needs to know" there are two houses under Islam the house of peace and the house of war. And although peace with Jews and Christians is allowed it can only ever be at most ten to fifteen years under Islam. And this is only allowed so they can gather thier allies.

We belong to the house of war and that will never change. The whole idea is to not challange this in public or to acknowledge it to the west but to drown out arguements with accusations of racism and prejudice. Take thier BBC poster boy for moderate muslims Mo Ansar who had a TV debate a few weeks ago with The One Show and Britains leading vetrinary surgeon and he called him racist and compared Britain to 1940's Germany for opposing Halal slaughter. This is the same guy who said he would need to talk to the scholars on weither or not he opposed cutting off the hands of thiefs.


Take out the man not the arguement.
 
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I don't understand a lot of Religion, I believe that there is a God, however I don't believe that he would cause the creations of Religions which would just war with each other. I think that a lot of Islam was influenced by events going on at the time and later.
 
Well, the test is "are you dependant on the person who made the will". If you aren't, then end of story. And if you aren't, why would you be upset if you weren't left anything anyway?

Pretty sure there are a fair few people who would want stuff they thought they should get, even if they didn't need it...
 
You obviously havent seen the video where they are enforcing their rules then. they make a woman turn around as she showing too much skin and make a guy pour his beer away. They are very aggressive and threatening and the people seem to be scared of them and comply. Have a look for it on ********.

EDIT: Ha, it seems the video was filmed by that ginger guy: http://www.********.com/view?i=f71_1386420860

Yeah "make", they were threatening and intimidating. That really isn't the same thing, these people are not even following the rules dictated by their own religion.

They are idiots and need to be careful with who they act like this to, but some one is going to be feeding them their own teeth if they carry on with it.
 
They only do it in Muslim majority area's so most people who would walk through would be the trendy lefty types who probably think the area is colorful. The people wary of them would probably avoid the area so all thier picking will be the weak people who assisted them. Everyone said this anyways the first people to be target of this will be the weak trendy leftys and the second will be the people who were ready for it.


England is merely a UK experiment of what will happen. Notice how none of this nonsense is tolerated in NI/Wales/Scotland.
 
Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about conflicting religious cultures.
And frankly I'm sick of Europeans getting the blame for something that isn't our fault.

Jews (we have the seconds largest population of Jews in Europe), Hindus, Sikhs, Buddists - all have roughly European compatible cultures.

That's why they fit in and you never hear a bad thing said against them

Jewish eh? - Funny how you bang on about integration with the laws of the land and womens rights in islam when the jewish community get away with stunts like this:

Plight of Jewish 'chained women' trapped in broken marriage
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26446360

Or how about the fact that beth din courts have been running in the UK for ages yet nobody bats an eye-lid when they are mentioned - but the word 'sharia' drives the same people on these forums nutty all the time?

Funny ain't it? - Its called singling out a selection of the minority - bigotry? or is it racism? :p

Either way its pretty pathetic to see the same individuals in this thread still banging on about it when it won't make a single bit of difference to their lives or anyone's outside of Islam. Pathetic.
 
Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about conflicting religious cultures.
And frankly I'm sick of Europeans getting the blame for something that isn't our fault.

Jews (we have the seconds largest population of Jews in Europe), Hindus, Sikhs, Buddists - all have roughly European compatible cultures.

That's why they fit in and you never hear a bad thing said against them


Muslims and the various African religions just don't.
their cultures are radically different (Female Genital Multilation, child brides, boy rape, devil possession etc ...long list is long)


You could stick as many brown Sikhs as you like into Stoke and you wouldn't notice a thing. You could plonk every Hasidic Jew in the country into my village and even I wouldn't notice.

Do the same with muslims (even pasty white ginger ones) and eventually there will be conflict. You can repeat this reckless multicultural experiment anywhere in the world and the news reporting will be identical.

This is not our problem, it is one of their own making.


Well said sir
 
You obviously havent seen the video where they are enforcing their rules then. they make a woman turn around as she showing too much skin and make a guy pour his beer away. They are very aggressive and threatening and the people seem to be scared of them and comply. Have a look for it on ********.

I've just found a video from there as well, different one. What proportion of the Muslim community do you think this video makes up? I would like to think that it is only a small minority of Muslims, but it does look a bit OTT when compared to the street preachers (Christianity) that I've seen in Birmingham.

http://www.********.com/view?i=b17_1395360608
 
Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about conflicting religious cultures.
And frankly I'm sick of Europeans getting the blame for something that isn't our fault.

Jews (we have the seconds largest population of Jews in Europe), Hindus, Sikhs, Buddists - all have roughly European compatible cultures.

That's why they fit in and you never hear a bad thing said against them


Muslims and the various African religions just don't.
their cultures are radically different (Female Genital Multilation, child brides, boy rape, devil possession etc ...long list is long)


You could stick as many brown Sikhs as you like into Stoke and you wouldn't notice a thing. You could plonk every Hasidic Jew in the country into my village and even I wouldn't notice.

Do the same with muslims (even pasty white ginger ones) and eventually there will be conflict. You can repeat this reckless multicultural experiment anywhere in the world and the news reporting will be identical.

This is not our problem, it is one of their own making.



Good post and about right.
 
Jewish eh? - Funny how you bang on about integration with the laws of the land and womens rights in islam when the jewish community get away with stunts like this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26446360


Do you ever read the links you post?
That woman lives in Israel, nothing to do with the UK??? :confused:


Or how about the fact that beth din courts have been running in the UK for ages yet nobody bats an eye-lid when they are mentioned - but the word 'sharia' drives the same people on these forums nutty all the time?
Because Jews have no desire to inflict their backwards religion on anyone else, in fact they will go to great lengths to avoid contact with other groups and keep non Jews out of their society.

Islam is the complete opposite, it goes to great lengths to try and subvert other cultures or force them into converting (see anywhere in Africa)
Sorry your own long and bloody history has blown your point out of the water.

Survey: when asked, 40% of muslims wanted Sharia law in the UK


Either way its pretty pathetic to see the same individuals in this thread still banging on about it when it won't make a single bit of difference to their lives or anyone's outside of Islam. Pathetic.
That's right, fall back onto pointing the finger at someone else to avoid responsibility or trying to shout down anyone who dares to criticise the backward cult of Islam.
Why don't you try the usual bullying liberal fascist tactics of calling everyone a racist/bigot/islamaphobe, but running away when asked for proof? The mods will back you up all the way.
Nothing like making a debate personal when you have no answer to the points raised.
 
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