Is it fair that I was excluded from college?

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Not sure if this is in the right place and I am quite new here but I was excluded for faking a BSOD on a tutors computer and needed an opinion from technical minded people. The BSOD was classified as a Trojan Horse by the college, yes it is an executable file that fakes a BSOD.

The thing is several students have been full screening pictures of a BSOD on tutors computers as well as putting up Google mavity as a laugh and a joke and the teachers took it as a laugh and a joke but when I did the same thing except with a piece of VB code I wrote they classified it as a virus, told me I commited a crime and excluded me.

I know I have violated the Computer Misuse Act 1998 but so have they by putting BSOD pranks on tutors machines without authority to do so. Due to this I think it is extremely unfair that I was excluded and was wondering what I could do, I am already on stage 3 which means I am close to being permanantly excluded from college, they have sent me home and took my ID card off of me while they open up an investigation and what has ****ed me off the most is that I've had to walk home because non of the buses would accept my student bus pass without my college ID card and I had no cash on me.

Please help I need support! This is vital to my future, the last dicipinary I had I had to sign a contract stating that I would use the computers sensibly but if they can do a BSOD prank on tutors and it be taken as a laugh and joke then what is the meaning of sensible?
 
Take responsabilty for your actions.

Reading between the lines, you obviously had more issues then just the prank here.
Possibly your attitude after the event and subsequently has not helped.
The reason I say this is due to how you justify your action and are now claiming to be a victim.

Your lucky no criminal investigation seems to be taking place.

My advice would be write to the Dean with a very humbled apology explaining that you have been very naive in your assumption pranks are acceptable etc etc.

BTW its GD topic.
 
Well I didn't say I didn't do anything wrong, I know that I did something wrong but what baffles me is why 3 students can do this and it be taken as a laugh and joke but when I do it it's taken as a serious offense. All the code does is fullscreen a BSOD when opened, it is no different to using Windows Image Viewer to fullscreen a BSOD.
 
Ivee said:
Not sure if this is in the right place and I am quite new here but I was excluded for faking a BSOD on a tutors computer and needed an opinion from technical minded people. The BSOD was classified as a Trojan Horse by the college, yes it is an executable file that fakes a BSOD.

The thing is several students have been full screening pictures of a BSOD on tutors computers as well as putting up Google mavity as a laugh and a joke and the teachers took it as a laugh and a joke but when I did the same thing except with a piece of VB code I wrote they classified it as a virus, told me I commited a crime and excluded me.

I know I have violated the Computer Misuse Act 1998 but so have they by putting BSOD pranks on tutors machines without authority to do so. Due to this I think it is extremely unfair that I was excluded and was wondering what I could do, I am already on stage 3 which means I am close to being permanantly excluded from college, they have sent me home and took my ID card off of me while they open up an investigation and what has ****ed me off the most is that I've had to walk home because non of the buses would accept my student bus pass without my college ID card and I had no cash on me.

Please help I need support! This is vital to my future, the last dicipinary I had I had to sign a contract stating that I would use the computers sensibly but if they can do a BSOD prank on tutors and it be taken as a laugh and joke then what is the meaning of sensible?
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- There's a difference between a full screen picture and a piece of VB code. Who knows what else your code does? Are they going to audit it? Why should they trust you?
- You've admitted you've violated the Computer Misuse Act.
- You've already been warned once and told to be sensible, and you haven't been.

I'd say they've got you bang to rights, and if they want to kick you out, they will.

The best you can hope for is that if you're incredibly apologetic they might let you stay, but given that you've already breached a signed contract of behaviour, I can't see why they'd believe you.
 
Its_Me said:
Take responsabilty for your actions.

Reading between the lines, you obviously had more issues then just the prank here.
Possibly your attitude after the event and subsequently has not helped.
The reason I say this is due to how you justify your action and are now claiming to be a victim.

Your lucky no criminal investigation seems to be taking place.

My advice would be write to the Dean with a very humbled apology explaining that you have been very naive in your assumption pranks are acceptable etc etc.

BTW its GD topic.
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Would an apology definately work? I have a slight feeling I've gone way overboard by now and if I have what other options do I have? I have done it twice so it should be hammered into me by now.
 
I was actually kept into an isolated environment for years so when it came to me starting college I had an awful lot of common sense to build up and I still struggle to see logic but I am slowly picking it up along the way.
 
I've done alsorts of mistakes and even mistakes after mistakes that relate to each other and each time I make one I analyse what I have done and slowly become stronger and better and don't make the same mistake twice. I would rather be in this mess now because I am young just not happy that it is messing up my life. I was also excluded from high school twice.
 
Ivee said:
Nope, just asking for opinions and advice on the matter.
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Honest opinion. You are not ready for college, far too immature. You have already broken the law and your contract of behaviour. Keeping you on would be a liability.

Suck it up. Get a job, any job, stacking shelves, loaing wagons, flipping burgers. Save up and once you are old enough to be a mature student study for a degree. You will behave VERY differently knowing you are actually paying for it.

If by some miracle you survive this investigation. Grow up and get on with your studies. You are not 13 anymore. You shouldn't ahve to be told to behave, told you are responsible for your own actions.
 
Ivee said:
Would an apology definately work? I have a slight feeling I've gone way overboard by now and if I have what other options do I have? I have done it twice so it should be hammered into me by now.
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Well, it's your only option really, so worth a try!

I think your best course of action would be, rather than just a face to face apology, a written one. Would a) show you're a bit more serious about it, and b) give written evidence against you in case you decide to do it again. Explain how you've seen the error of your ways and guarantee it wont happen again.

Then cross your fingers.

And to answer your question, yes it's perfectly fair that you were excluded. From experience, IT techs in education have more than enough to deal with, what with 5 year old computers that are constantly breaking, idiot students who don't backup their work and expect us to be able to recover their years' work from a memory stick that was eaten by their dog then run over twice, and teachers who expect the software they need for a lesson installed on 30 PCs with 10 minutes notice.

The last thing they need is some student who thinks they're clever because they can write a 5 line vb script which causes more un-needed support calls to be logged. Especially when that student has (it sounds like) been disciplined for the same thing before.
 
Woden said:
Suck it up. Get a job, any job, stacking shelves, loaing wagons, flipping burgers. Save up and once you are old enough to be a mature student study for a degree. You will behave VERY differently knowing you are actually paying for it.
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That's a bad recommendation. I want a good future not a suckish one stacking shelves and emptying trash while on a small wague. I want to help myself.
 
Haggisman said:
Well, it's your only option really, so worth a try!

I think your best course of action would be, rather than just a face to face apology, a written one. Would a) show you're a bit more serious about it, and b) give written evidence against you in case you decide to do it again. Explain how you've seen the error of your ways and guarantee it wont happen again.

Then cross your fingers.

And to answer your question, yes it's perfectly fair that you were excluded. From experience, IT techs in education have more than enough to deal with, what with 5 year old computers that are constantly breaking, idiot students who don't backup their work and expect us to be able to recover their years' work from a memory stick that was eaten by their dog then run over twice, and teachers who expect the software they need for a lesson installed on 30 PCs with 10 minutes notice.

The last thing they need is some student who thinks they're clever because they can write a 5 line vb script which causes more un-needed support calls to be logged. Especially when that student has (it sounds like) been disciplined for the same thing before.
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I could just ask to be trialed in the apology.
 
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