Prepare tin foil hats - no planes hit the twin towers

Angilion said:
Which utterly proves that conspiracy "theorists" are actually undercover agents of the Alien Illuminati Freemason Secret Government, using highly implausible conspiracy "theories" as propaganda to discredit the idea of conspiracies. They're ruthless and amoral, but they're cunning!
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This guy knows the truth.
 
Skeeter said:
We are at the stage now where no explaination will be considered correct by the conspiracy theorists. Each theorist has their own theory and will only accept an explaination if it matches their own view. All other views will be rejected, so its a no win situation.

Questioning things like this is fine, especially if it uncovers short fallings and leads to improvements in the future, but the culture of continually and indefinitely rejecting explainations on conspiracy grounds is just people fulfilling their own sense of self importance. They don't really want the 'truth', they just want to be seen as someone rejecting the explaimation, regardless of what it is.
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Replace 'conspiracy' with religion.


BOOM cue religious arguments!
 
Atlas23 said:
So obviously the planes that everyone saw fly into the buildings were actually holograms projected by the corrupt media helicopters.
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I think he has based his uneducated opinions about the way the plane should have reacted, on the video footage all of which is slowed down so you can actually see what happens.


Werewolf said:
It also caught fire, and was basically left to burn because the fire service had lost so many people already they didn't want to/couldn't risk losing more for a low value building where people's lives were not in danger.
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Also the water main the would have fed it's sprinklers was severed by the first tower collapse.


Werewolf said:
Aye, from memory there was a guy doing a dissertation on the WTC1 and 2 fire-proofing (I think he was doing it in general on fire standards at the time of construction, and had permission to use them for a study), and basically in the case of WTC1 and 2 both were way below even the original standard required, with large sections having no covering, and many more having far below the minimum required.

I think it was the case that in some cases it had obviously never been applied properly (or at all), and in others it just hadn't been repaired when damaged.
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Correct, the asbestos fireproofing of the WTC complex was abandoned during construction over health fears, the experimental asbestos substitute used instead was found years later to not only be pretty useless but actually help fire damage steel.

A funny thing is that asbestos isn't banned in the states, it's just not used any more as construction companies don't want any potential lawsuits and it's recommended against. As a result of 9/11 a number of Canadian/Russian asbestos companies have actually stated that if the towers had been built to code they would have stayed up long enough for a full evacuation (though the flip side to that would have been that the actual death toll would have been even higher due to the asbestos content of the dust cloud created by the collapses).
 
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Jokester said:
Wacko!

Conspiracy theories only work if they have an element of believability to them. To claim they weren't hit by aircraft given all the thousands of witness testimonies, videos and of course the fact that 2 planes otherwise disappeared with all passengers onboard (some of whose remains were found at the scene by the way) is quite frankly an offence to those who died.
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Couldn't have put it better myself. Bored society with nothing better to do other than seeking attention by creating false media drama at the expense of the victims and their families. What tragically happened - happened. No one has a right to twist things to appear what they are not.. Utterly disrespectful.
 
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Heavy duty and ten meters of it. Ten meters!!!

Do you think that will be enough or should I get some more?! :confused::(
 
Angilion said:
Which utterly proves that conspiracy "theorists" are actually undercover agents of the Alien Illuminati Freemason Secret Government, using highly implausible conspiracy "theories" as propaganda to discredit the idea of conspiracies. They're ruthless and amoral, but they're cunning!
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Nice to see someone gets it. :D
 
Mat said:
Roger that...
75 whole meters on order. Surely that will be enough to keep those thought pinching ne'erdowells out?
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But what if the protection afforded by the afore mentioned hat was actually a lie released by the government?!? Maybe it amplifies your thoughts!!! :eek:
 
Dimple said:
With bloody good reason.
They are like Facebook posters who don't do the slightest bit of research before 'Sharing' something.
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Have you researched how much the average conspiracy theorist researches before forming an opinion? :p
 
I often wonder if the conspiracy theories around say 9/11 is because we are all lied too about physics with the CG in movies and TV giving us a false impression of how large objects behave. Therefore some brains simply can't handle the reality of a plane behaving according to Newton and basically disintegrating into the side of a building that shortly later just drops.

9/11 as a movie would have had the buildings exploding in a huge ball of fire and the planes coming through the other side with the hero/villain in the cockpit still alive.
 
Conspiracy theorists are a lot like creationists. In the same way the latter think if they can cast even the tiniest of shadows over the scientific explanation that somehow leads to their theory being correct, CTers think if they can find something a bit dodgy about the official explanation it somehow lends credence to their mad, implausible alternative one.

If you have a theory, you're job is to prove every element of IT, not to simply discredit the accepted one and assume that then makes yours the truth.
 
estebanrey said:
If you have a theory, you're job is to prove every element of IT, not to simply discredit the accepted one and assume that then makes yours the truth.
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I agree.


But surely folk have to stop nuking any other opinion than the accepted one?

(I'm not a CS theorist by the way - just stop hating on any other idea's surely!!)
 
Nate75 said:
I agree.


But surely folk have to stop nuking any other opinion than the accepted one?
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Sure, I encourage skepticism but if you are doing a 1,000 piece jigsaw and you've placed 999 pieces to reveal a picture of The Eiffel Tower in the daytime and your last piece doesn't fit and looks more like a night scene, then probability would suggest you have the wrong piece and not that Jigaw is actually a depiction of the Shard Tower at Night.

I hope my metaphorical example of how most conspiracy theories come across [logically] works.
 
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