Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?

Who will you be voting for?

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Labour Party donor Ian Wallace has announced that he is joining UKIP after becoming disillusioned by the direction of Labour

"I have been a member and supporter of the Labour Party since 1979 however, in recent years, I have become increasingly disillusioned by the direction the Labour Party has taken and find myself increasingly at odds with the party's policies across a wide range of issues and in particular the vital issues of immigration and Britain's relationship with the EU.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/21/Labour-stalwart-defects-to-ukip

Interesting,,
 
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^TANK^ said:
What does your age have to do with who you're voting for?
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It doesn't have anything to do with it,but the age of the voter usually effects the way they vote, due to the experience of life that they have had.
Hence it is an interesting stat to somebody working with stats.
[age related to where a vote was cast]
 
Would it be cynical to suggest that older people see no benefit to a lot of initiatives and tend to move towards selfish viewpoints, maybe forgetting what they were able to benefit from as they were growing up?
 
Caged said:
Would it be cynical to suggest that older people see no benefit to a lot of initiatives and tend to move towards selfish viewpoints, maybe forgetting what they were able to benefit from as they were growing up?
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If you insert a word some such as "some" or "many" before "older people" then yes that would not be an unreasonable statement.
 
altus said:
It doesn't have anything to do with it,but the age of the voter usually effects the way they vote, due to the experience of life that they have had.
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Well, I'd say a lot of their views are heavily influenced by the morality of the society of their youth rather than some wise, considered opinion derived from experience.

Afterall, when most old people champion bringing back corporal punishment in schools they say "It never did me any harm" and not "I've considered all of the physiological and psychological aspects and think, on balance, that giving the children the cane is good for them".

To put it another way, I would expect the vast majority of old people in 2050 to be supportive of gay marriage. Today that is not the case, but not based on experience but because 'in their day' gay people pretended to be straight and no one talked about 'that kind of thing' and they turned out alright.

The way I see it, the older you get the less you are receptive to change and eventually start wanting to go backwards. Afterall, no one likes to admit for the majority of their life they and their friends were wrong about things like race, women's rights and homosexuality. It's much more comforting to assume you were right all along and today's youth are wrong and naive.
 
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estebanrey said:
Well, I'd say a lot of their views are heavily influenced by the morality of the society of their youth rather than some wise, considered opinion derived from experience.

Afterall, when most old people champion bringing back corporal punishment in schools they say "It never did me any harm" and not "I've considered all of the physiological and psychological aspects and think, on balance, that giving the children the cane is good for them".

To put it another way, I would expect the vast majority of old people in 2050 to be supportive of gay marriage. Today that is not the case, but not based on experience but because 'in their day' gay people pretended to be straight and no one talked about 'that kind of thing' and they turned out alright.

The way I see it, the older you get the less you are receptive to change and eventually start wanting to go backwards. Afterall, no one likes to admit for the majority of their life they and their friends were wrong about things like race, women's rights and homosexuality. It's much more comforting to assume you were right all along and today's youth are wrong and naive.
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All the older people I know do not like cruelty to children, they do not feel "hate" towards gays, but some do have difficulty accepting it as "normal".
Maybe because it was more hidden from them in the past, and\or they are not so roundly educated in these things.
However , I feel that the voting decisions they make will not all be based on the subjects you mention, child cruelty, race and homophobia.
I am sure many of them will be considering how things are run for their children and grandchildren.
It is important to them that they feel the future will be good for their loved ones before they pass on.
They will be worrying about more everyday things like food, housing, you know, little things like quality of life and health.

Alternately younger voters have less experience of being lied too by politicians and the media.
 
altus said:
All the older people I know do not like cruelty to children, they do not feel "hate" towards gays, but some do have difficulty accepting it as "normal".
Maybe because it was more hidden from them in the past, and\or they are not so roundly educated in these things.
However , I feel that the voting decisions they make will not all be based on the subjects you mention, child cruelty, race and homophobia.
I am sure many of them will be considering how things are run for their children and grandchildren.
It is important to them that they feel the future will be good for their loved ones before they pass on.
They will be worrying about more everyday things like food, housing, you know, little things like quality of life and health.

Alternately younger voters have less experience of being lied too by politicians and the media.
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You seem to have missed the pint I was making. You implied that older voters' decisions were solely (or mostly) based on their life experience, as if they are somehow wise in their choice making. I was simply disagreeing by stating I think experience has little to do with it and it's mostly based on the societal morality of the time they grew up in.

Saying they vote with their grandchildren's future in mind doesn't say a lot about how they vote or who they vote for. Someone with racist tenancies will think a return to 'traditional England' will be best for their offspring and as you alluded to many will think that their gay great-grandson would be better off "choosing" the straight lifestyle.

I was talking about their objective morality, not their intentions based on off ill-formed logic.
 
estebanrey said:
You seem to have missed the pint I was making. You implied that older voters' decisions were solely (or mostly) based on their life experience, as if they are somehow wise in their choice making. I was simply disagreeing by stating I think experience has little to do with it and it's mostly based on the societal morality of the time they grew up in.

Saying they vote with their grandchildren's future in mind doesn't say a lot about how they vote or who they vote for. Someone with racist tenancies will think a return to 'traditional England' will be best for their offspring and as you alluded to many will think that their gay great-grandson would be better off "choosing" the straight lifestyle.

I was talking about their objective morality, not their intentions based on off ill-formed logic.
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No, I am saying life experience effects how any aged person votes.
You seem to be just looking for what you consider to be the wrong decisions of old people because you do not agree with them.
 
** edited - best not to give him the time or response he's looking for.. **

Anyway, off to vote ukip later to cancel out your vote against them.
 
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