Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?

[dirtychinchilla]

You're using that term wrong, again.

Intentionally

 

[Tunney]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/05/26/openly-gay-ukip-mep-elected-in-scotland/

An openly gay UKIP MEP has been elected for the first time ever, David Coburn.

I wondered why it was raining today.

 

[MrMoonX]

i'm no big fan of ukip or farage but you are taking the views of a few ukip nutcases and they aren't representative. Farage has criticised those views and sacked a number of ukip member who have those views.
It also has to be said that both the conservatives and labour have there fair share of crazy nutcases with extreme views also.
We need a sensible discussion of ukip, concerns people have and why they felt the need to vote for ukip. Simply insulting them based on unofficial viewpoints doesn't help anybody.

Farage himself said he doesn't like foreign people talking on trains, if that isn't racist I don't know what is. He better not get the train to Brussels that often, which clearly he doesn't as he never turns up in the European Parliament like the rest of his Mep's but is quite happy to take the cash, yet complain of an EU gray train, it's all hypocrisy from ukip

 

[badcompany]

Farage himself said he doesn't like foreign people talking on trains, if that isn't racist I don't know what is. He better not get the train to Brussels that often, which clearly he doesn't as he never turns up in the European Parliament like the rest of his Mep's but is quite happy to take the cash, yet complain of an EU gray train, it's all hypocrisy from ukip

He said not speaking English.
NOT THE FACT THEY ARE THERE!!!

Wow!

Try again.

 

[deuse]

He said not speaking English.
NOT THE FACT THEY ARE THERE!!!

Wow!

Try again.

Don't bother with him. His upset the party he voted for never didn't do very well...again.

 

[Westyfield2]

if that isn't racist I don't know what is.

As a starter for ten:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Bus_Boycott#The_dispute

 

[[TW]Fox]

Farage himself said he doesn't like foreign people talking on trains, if that isn't racist I don't know what is.

I'm not fan of Farage but I'm not sure how that comment in itself is racist. You don't need to be a different race to speak a different language, which surely you must realise?

Are people really THAT dumb as to believe this is correct? It doesn't matter what % of the UK voted. If they didn't vote, you can't assume they wouldn't have voted UKIP.

LOL. Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on here.

I addressed this point earlier:

One important thing to bear in mind is that those who have made a decision that they agree with and support UKIP are far more likely to vote in the first place - they've got an opinion on Europe and Politics. Whereas those who didn't bother to vote are likely not UKIP supporters for the same reason.

I suspect we'll never be able to get such figures but if you looked out at the turnout as a percentage of people who support each party, UKIP would have a huge percentage turnout.

Which means its fairly accurate to say that support in the UK for UKIP is probably pretty close to the 30% of the 30% who voted..

 

[Rilot]

Are people really THAT dumb as to believe this is correct? It doesn't matter what % of the UK voted. If they didn't vote, you can't assume they wouldn't have voted UKIP.

LOL. Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on here.

They didn't bother to vote and we cannot say which way they would have voted if they could have been bothered. We can probably assume that they didn't care enough about the issues at hand to bother to cast their vote. If they really cared then they would have made the effort.

So, my figures stand. 9% of the population voted for UKIP. You can't refute that.

 

[Westyfield2]

In conversation today with friends the Euro Elections came up. The comments from them were pretty much unanimous, but obviously my circle of friends may be slightly skewed!

They all said:
"I always vote in every election. People died for the right to vote. If I don't vote, then I've got no right to complain. Even if it's just a protest vote, you should still vote."

Most of them said:
"For the first time ever, I didn't vote Conservative. I voted UKIP instead. I wouldn't vote for them in a general election though, and there's some of their stuff I disagree with. But I just wanted to give Cameron the kick in the teeth he needs. Hopefully the message will be received & understood. By the time of the general election the Conservatives will man up and move back to the right, then all is good and they've got my vote back."

A couple said:
"I can see why people are wanting to send a message to Cameron, and I agree. But I've always voted Conservative and couldn't bring myself to change. Nigel is just so creepy".

 

[robgmun]

Presenting the argument "I have women/black/gay friends, therefore I'm not sexist/racist/homophobic" means you don't understand what it means to be sexist/racist/homophobic.

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That's such a cop out answer to what you quoted

 

[arknor]

I don't think you understand those cases - they were tax avoidance as opposed to evasion and it gets very complicated when dealing with multi-nationals.

Working cash-in-hand and lying on a self assessment is not the same thing.

so when is gary barlow etc going to get there settlement ?

or is it different for the average man on the street and another rule for the rich elite?

 

[v0n]

Unfortunately this kick in the teeth to Cameron comes in a wrong election. If it was council only, then yeah, but this vote may cost Britain a lot in EU for five long years.

If Nigel decides to vote again in favour of handing over British fishing waters to Spanish fleets or tries to get rid of European Arrest Warrant, perhaps this time they will have enough votes to push it through... You would think the party that put both fisheries and crime prevention in their manifesto wouldn't stoop as low as to actually try and create the problem themselves, but that's just what UKIP did in the last 5 years in EU parliament - diversion and creating tensions.

 

[Robot Dog]

Should i be alarmed by the amount Labour have gained. Can you imagine Ed Miliband leading the country

 

[semi-pro waster]

Not quite sure that a whole party can be judged on the comments/views of one individual member. Unless of course that one member is the leader and the party make all their MPs vote their way rather than giving them a free vote.

Which is why I pointed out that it might not be fair to judge the entire party based on his views. However for whatever it is worth Mr Bloom has courted a number of controversies in this particular area and others for many years and as far as I'm aware it was only in 2013 that they removed the whip from him so it's open to interpretation whether that counts as tacit approval up to that point. Then again other parties have members who say stupid things so I suppose it comes down to if you think the censure applied is appropriate or timely whether that's a fair interpretation.

Especially when they disciplined him by withdrawing the party whip from him.

It's hard to say for certain what would have been done were that his only offence that year but the fact that he also struck a journalist and threatened a second reporter might also have had something to do with it.

 

[badcompany]

I addressed this point earlier:

That's rubbish you can't say that the 30% that voted ukip is the 30% of the UK that would support them. Lol

No personal insults. Thank you.

I will be happy for a holiday for that. Bye

 

[Caged]

It's a good counter point you make, well reasoned, logical throughout. Congratulations.

 

[arknor]

That's rubbish you can't say that the 30% that voted ukip is the 30% of the UK that would support them. Lol

No personal insults. Thank you.

I will be happy for a holiday for that. Bye

why not?

most polls don't change much with a larger sample size.

 

[estebanrey]

I like how Labour (i.e. Chuka and Ed) are saying that the result of an Anti-EU victory in the EU election aren't about concerns with Europe.

 

[[TW]Fox]

That's rubbish you can't say that the 30% that voted ukip is the 30% of the UK that would support them. Lol

I didn't actually say that - I conceded we'd could never prove either way, but surely you agree there is some merit in the idea that those who have engaged with UKIP enough to decide to support them are probably more likely to then make the effort to go out and effect the change they want by actually voting?

Whereas there is more apathy amongst the traditional voters with traditional party allegience.

Whats the point in working out what UKIP stand for and thinking you want them and then not bothering to vote?

No personal insults. Thank you.

I will be happy for a holiday for that. Bye

Seriously? I've no idea what you said but you'd be happy to be banned to make an insult in an internet argument about politics? Whats the point?!

 

[V F]

Should i be alarmed by the amount Labour have gained. Can you imagine Ed Miliband leading the country

Imagine the thought. Everything undone and back to where we started. Never getting out of the recession. 4/5 years getting on track ever so slowly and another 4/5 undone.

Imagine the thought of Ed Balls as well in power.