Im British and Dont understand tipping

The only person I tip is a waiter/waitress at a restaurant or a pizza delivery person. I won't tip anyone else. I used to tip taxi drivers but nowadays it's so expensive I don't bother.
 
Erm please tell me your not a business owner if you can't get your head around the fact the in EVERY industry CLIENTS PAY THE STAFF WAGES

You're doing it wrong. You pay the business who out of that pays their staff. The client doesn't pay the staff directly and then the business separately.
 
Agreed. I often ask for the service charge to be removed as well. Unless we are a large group of people when service is more of an effort... But then again it is their job. I guess it doesn't pay well and it sucks but why should I feel guilt tripped into tipping because they aren't earning a good wage if they haven't gone above and beyond their duty?

I never get this tipping because you're with a large party.

Where my stepson works if you go in with a large party then you get a free bottle of champagne or however many it takes to make sure they all get a glass it's only cheap stuff but still they appreciate getting in big groups and this is the way it should be surely? not the opposite way around with the customers almost apologising with money for bringing a lot of custom like it's some extra effort for the business who ordinarily wouldn't want your large group spending their money.

maybe if I went somewhere without a reservation and they let us all in because it was quiet when ordinarily you would need to reserve a table or two then yea I could see the point in tipping..

you wouldn't go to ocuk with 12 guys all spending money and expect to feel the need to tip because it's a lot of hard work for that guy scanning all those items into the till.
you would expect maybe to haggle a discount and then a nice thing to do would be pass on some of that discount in tips to the people that served you.
 
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In most instances, we strive to pay the least possible for a service/item, by shopping around, comparing prices, haggling etc.

However, there are some situations where some people insist on paying MORE than the specified price!

I don't understand it!
 
In most instances, we strive to pay the least possible for a service/item, by shopping around, comparing prices, haggling etc.

However, there are some situations where some people insist on paying MORE than the specified price!

I don't understand it!

Confused indeed.
 
In most instances, we strive to pay the least possible for a service/item, by shopping around, comparing prices, haggling etc.

However, there are some situations where some people insist on paying MORE than the specified price!

I don't understand it!

Your confused about what.

Items which people haggle for are fixed, same item you buy anywhere.

Food and service is not about paying the least possible. If that was the case you would go get a burger and chips from a dunked takeaway hangout, rather than going to a restraunt. You okay for what you get.

I would rather be able to tip like in America, than be forced to pay upfront like in the uk, either as part of the price or a 10% service bill (which if advertised on menu or you are made aware off, you have to pay)

Service in UK absolutely sucks, compared to even a cheap cafe in America. And it's mainly down to tipping, is a large part of their wage.

You asumme you don't pay it in the uk and so call it extra. that is not the case, you're just paying extra to begin with, with no choice.
 
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I think people concerned with tipping need to take a look at what living on minimum wage in this country is like. If you want your service staff to have to live like that then go ahead, don't tip, but don't be surprised when you get awful service from staff that are not earning enough money to live serving you.
 
Your confused about what.

Items which people haggle for are fixed, same item you buy anywhere.

Food and service is not about paying the least possible. If that was the case you would go get a burger and chips from a dunked takeaway hangout, rather than going to a restraunt. You okay for what you get.

I would rather be able to tip like in America, than be forced to pay upfront like in the uk, either as part of the price or a 10% service bill (which if advertised on menu or you are made aware off, you have to pay)

Service in UK absolutely sucks, compared to even a cheap cafe in America. And it's mainly down to tipping, is a large part of their wage.

You asumme you don't pay it in the uk and so call it extra. that is not the case, you're just paying extra to begin with, with no choice.
it's only a large part of their wage because you tip...

you tip so the employer doesn't have to pay the federal minimum wage of over 7$ instead he can pay $2 odd if they made the hourly rate up in tips it's a crappy practice.

tipping in this country to try and get decent service? the good service should be standard to attract my custom if the business and employers don't appreciate me spending money in the store then why should I have to pay what is basically extortion to get good service ?

when I can just go some place where good service is standard and there are no hidden extras you need to purchase to be valued.

it seems like an extremely corrupt practice to me

I'd imagine the tipping culture in America means it's very hard to get a crappy job unless you are attractive as attractive people are more likely to get tips which seems even more unfair..
 
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How is it crappy. It's performance related bonus. and it works. As people keep seem to ignore, service in the UK is ****, in America it is very very good.
 
Tipping is a socially unpleasant activity.

It creates an awkward social tension & encourages staff to be 'over-nice', I can't stand it tbh.

I'd much prefer the way we do things here in the UK, it also stops employers getting away with paying terrible wages (on a side note though, I would boost the wage of the poorest staff in the UK - which would benefit not only most tip recipients but also those who work in just as badly paid professions who are not lucky enough to get a tip).
 
How is it crappy. It's performance related bonus. and it works. As people keep seem to ignore, service in the UK is ****, in America it is very very good.

performance related bonus should be paid by the employer.

maybe we should all have a whip around for all the ocuk dons that go out of their way to mod the forum? no one gets paid for that right?

why not tip them? for going above and beyond? maybe we could even pay for an employee of the month award for them, how about we just go the whole hog and start a pension scheme for them? maybe insurance to?

anything to save the shareholders money and increase their profits, it's not like a business should have to cover these expenses why do they even pay any wages in the first place? makes no sense the customers should pay the wages it's them who needs the goods, we don't need to sell them we are a chairty
 
How do you do performance related pay for service staff?
It's not like you can measures their performance by sales etc.
And if the company pays it, then the customer is paying for it anyway.

The company pays in the UK, as a result the service is terrible. So we already do, do that. It doesn't work.
 
Would you all tip me please. I went to hot sunny places on numerous occassions, risking my life, for your FREEDOMZZZ! I did a good job of it too, excellent service, with a smile I might add.

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Tipping is a socially unpleasant activity.

It creates an awkward social tension & encourages staff to be 'over-nice', I can't stand it tbh.

I'd much prefer the way we do things here in the UK, it also stops employers getting away with paying terrible wages (on a side note though, I would boost the wage of the poorest staff in the UK - which would benefit not only most tip recipients but also those who work in just as badly paid professions who are not lucky enough to get a tip).

boost the wages? with what some nitrous oxide? :confused:

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Tipping is just part of the culture in the states, it was very hard for me to learn to not tip when I first moved back here having lived there for over 6 years, I got really strange looks from people when I tipped :D
 
The Americans also have a growing habit of putting the tip on the bill and then expecting you to tip again. I ordered room service couple of weeks back when over there, food arrives, tip on bill and pedro hangs around for another tip. Pedro didn't like me.
 
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