Small problem with 4K monitor, loves Titans but hates 290Xs

Silent_Scone · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:22

TheRealDeal said:
It's the first link i came to on google so it really is that simple.

Anyhow am out you guys can buy blind all you like. I will stick to my logic of not being surprised because i done some reading.

Yeah go back to your Bloomfield CPU, that's one way of knowing it's going to work...not buy anything new.

Rusty0611 · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:23

TheRealDeal said:
It's the first link i came to on google so it really is that simple.

Anyhow am out you guys can buy blind all you like. I will stick to my logic of not being surprised because i done some reading.

You are missing the point of this through your ignorance.

It's not normal practice to check whether a monitor you're buying works or doesn't work with a GPU you have. As long as the connections between the two items match up there is no reason to harbour suspicions.

I didn't check whether my Dell monitor worked through DL DVI before buying. My GPU has DL DVI, my monitor does... it's nothing something a sane person really checks.

Silent_Scone · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:26

Plus you can always DSR it.

Fool, Kaap. utter fool

TheRealDeal · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:31

MjFrosty said:
Yeah go back to your Bloomfield CPU, that's one way of knowing it's going to work...not buy anything new.

Yea bring down my hardware all you like. I have bought plenty in the past and other things in life. Below the belt tbh.

james.miller · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:31

MjFrosty said:
Well I'm afraid to say you're on your own with that one...

290X has a DP1.2 output, supports the native resolution, and the panel supports DP1.2.

Why shouldn't it work in Crossfire.

I think the answer you are looking for is because crossfire. All bets are off when you're talking about crossfire.

If I buy a television I don't google to see if it will run BBC

Well no. But tvs have done that for decades. When you're on the fringe it's a different story. When bluray came out, for example, we all wanted tvs that supported 1080p/24. The current crop at the time didn't, so that's a feature us early adopters actively looked for. These days it's a given, just like tvs tuning in to bbc1...

You're on the fringe. It's not your fault but you have to expect incompatibility issues with 4k and crossfire/sli. The fact sli works is great, of course.

TheRealDeal · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:33

james.miller said:
I think the answer you are looking for is because crossfire. All bets are off when you're talking about crossfire.

Well no. But tvs have done that for decades. When you're on the fringe it's a different story. When bluray came out, for example, we all wanted tvs that supported 1080p/24. The current crop at the time didn't, so that's a feature us early adopters actively looked for. These days it's a given, just like tvs tuning in to bbc1...

You're on the fringe. It's not your fault but you have to expect incompatibility issues with 4k and crossfire/sli. The fact sli works is great, of course.

+1

Silent_Scone · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:34

TheRealDeal said:
Yea bring down my hardware all you like. I have bought plenty in the past and other things in life. Below the belt tbh.

Below the belt? Because I put down your CPU?

I'll await being pulled by the arm to the head masters office

ubersonic · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:34

TheRealDeal said:
I will stick to my logic of not being surprised because i done some reading.

I bought a new kettle on my lunch break because mine died last night, I never thought to research if it's compatible with water or not, you have me worried now

james.miller said:
But tvs have done that for decades. When you're on the fringe it's a different story. When bluray came out, for example, we all wanted tvs that supported 1080p/24. The current crop at the time didn't, so that's a feature us early adopters actively looked for.

And when we connected a 1080p/24 advertised device to a 1080p/24 TV using the correct cable we expected it to work...

tribz · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:36

Kaapstad said:
If I buy a television I don't google to see if it will run BBC1

I got bit by that a number of years ago when I expected my new HD telly to be able to watch HD broadcasts but turned out it didnt support Freeview HD.

TheRealDeal · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:37

ubersonic said:
I bought a new kettle on my lunch break because mine died last night, I never thought to research if it's compatible with water or not, you have me worried now

Seriously because if a kettle does not boil water it's broke. Pc hardware has so many variables that reading up about compatibility is a must especially when you are running 4 Gpu's. Really if that's all you can come up with come back later after some more thought.

Gregster · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:39

Can we drop it please guys and try and keep on topic.

Sin_Chase · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:42

TheRealDeal said:
Seriously because if a kettle does not boil water it's broke. Pc hardware has so many variables that reading up about compatibility is a must. Really if that's all you can come up with come back later after some more thought.

4K capable GPU with DP1.2 output
4K capable panel with DP1.2 input

That should be the most reading ANYONE should have to do. Standards exist for a reason, this is one of them - Ensuring compatibility.

If a GPU with a DP1.2 output does not work on a DP1.2 input 4K monitor then said GPU Vendor cannot and should not be labelling their products with DP and 4K compatibility stickers. End Of.

ubersonic · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:43

TheRealDeal said:
Seriously because if a kettle does not boil water it's broke. Pc hardware has so many variables that reading up about compatibility is a must.

Not always, if you buy a USB 3.0 hard drive you expect it to work at USB 3.0 speed when connected to the USB 3.0 port of a compatible machine running a compatible O/S.

When you buy a card advertised heavily as 4K compatible and connect t to a 4K screen using the appropriate cable that is something that should just work and any reasonable person would expect as such.

People shouldn't be expected to research if things like that work, it's that simple.

TheRealDeal · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:46

Sin_Chase said:
4K capable GPU with DP1.2 output
4K capable panel with DP1.2 input

That should be the most reading ANYONE should have to do. Standards exist for a reason, this is one of them - Ensuring compatibility.

If a GPU with a DP1.2 output does not work on a DP1.2 input 4K monitor then said GPU Vendor cannot and should not be labelling their products with DP and 4K compatibility stickers. End Of.

Yep and he said his 290x works. It seems to be a multiple gpu problem. Anyhow that semantics and i don't trust what the spec's say. Anyone experienced in PC's know's that problems can arise anywhere as there's so many different configs. I don't get why this comes as such a big revelation to some.

oldestgregg · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:47

ubersonic said:
Not always, if you buy a USB 3.0 hard drive you expect it to work at USB 3.0 speed when connected to the USB 3.0 port of a compatible machine running a compatible O/S.

When you buy a card advertised heavily as 4K compatible and connect t to a 4K screen using the appropriate cable that is something that should just work and any reasonable person would expect as such.

People shouldn't be expected to research if things like that work, it's that simple.

Yep. We know to play about but most people dont and expect it to do whatever,straight out of the tin. Its surprising how many people have more money than sense and would never read up on stuff beforehand or even know what to do if they had

TheRealDeal · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:48

ubersonic said:
Not always, if you buy a USB 3.0 hard drive you expect it to work at USB 3.0 speed when connected to the USB 3.0 port of a compatible machine running a compatible O/S.

When you buy a card advertised heavily as 4K compatible and connect t to a 4K screen using the appropriate cable that is something that should just work and any reasonable person would expect as such.

People shouldn't be expected to research if things like that work, it's that simple.

No i would still read and the card is working, it's the multiple card variable that's causing the problem. Kaap's machines are far from your standard everyday gaming PC. He is using 4 way solutions. I read up about my SSD as well knowing it should work but guess what there are problems with SSD's and how long they last, with some reading i found out my SSD is known for it's longevity. I also found out that SSD's don't like my motherboard to much. Things i actually didn't know until i read up.

Silent_Scone · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:48

a hole is being dug!

I think maybe we should keep this to the issue at hand. Drop an email to the relevant addresses Kaap, see how far it gets you.

james.miller · 1 Jul 2014 at 14:53

Sin_Chase said:
4K capable GPU with DP1.2 output
4K capable panel with DP1.2 input

That should be the most reading ANYONE should have to do. Standards exist for a reason, this is one of them - Ensuring compatibility.

If a GPU with a DP1.2 output does not work on a DP1.2 input 4K monitor then said GPU Vendor cannot and should not be labelling their products with DP and 4K compatibility stickers. End Of.

Yes why should I check if my existing board supports this new cpu? It's the same socket dammit I shouldn't need to check :mad:

But yes in a perfect world standards would be all we need

in reality, standards are not cut and dry. Parameters can change within them, features you might expect can be optional rather than mandatory... I'll mention blurry again but look at the evolution of blurry through v1.1 to v2.0 to see a good example of that.

Silent_Scone · 1 Jul 2014 at 15:06

This isn't a STANDARD. There is no reason why this monitor shouldn't support crossfire.

/end discussion

Gerard · 1 Jul 2014 at 15:08

Have to wonder about all the issues with 4k and video cards, seen plenty of reviews with multiple cards on a variety of screens and only the odd issue encountered. :confused: