Peadophiles in the House of Commons

It's not a criminal offense to view them. It's a criminal offense to download and share them.

Do you understand the differences between what is real and what is not real?

Do you understand why an observer may raise an eyebrow at someone ignorantly calling homosexuality an illness or defect who themselves enjoys and pays money for cartoons featuring children and teens in abhorrent sexual situations for their gratification?

I'm not going to play the 'do you ..?' game anymore but your foundations in this argument are shaky at absolute best.
 
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As a slight aside, you may want to edit this. It doesn't read at all well and is probably not what you intended. I'll edit my above quote if necessary.
 
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[FnG]magnolia;26578573 said:
As a slight aside, you may want to edit this. It doesn't read at all well and is probably not what you intended. I'll edit my above quote if necessary.

Done.
 
I'm not interested in ALL urges. This discussion is about the sexual urge. Your question was largely irrelevant. So I addressed the topic rather than the erroneous baggage that your question had attached to it.

So you do gratify all your sexual urges or you do not?

I like women and I do not satisfy all my urges. Which is why I logically believe a person who likes the look of kids will not always seek to gratify himself.

I sexually enjoy the aesthetics of many women and I have had 4893 urges to have sex with various women since January but I've actually had sex about 10 times this year.
 
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So you do gratify all your sexual urges or you do not?

Why do you need to ask that ? You're an evolved mammal just like me. We share the same DNA. We both have sexual urges don't we ? So yes, I do as do you.

By ALL sexual urges, I'm assuming you mean when we get horny we seek sex or masturbation and not some deviant fetish like snuff sex, just normal sexual urges.
 
Are you a heterosexual Jestar ?


Have you ever masturbated to heterosexual pornography ?

I done the lot mate every hetro,bi,homo,metro etc sexual stuff you can think of.

Its just a picture or video right! :rolleyes:

Child abuse just F`ing NO! Because that is what you are looking
at, a non consensual act of sex between innocence and down right F`ing
abuse. :mad:

Two adults doing the craziest things ever to themselves FINE by me!

Kids just NO! :mad: Gets coat and brandy to calm down. ;)
 
I done the lot mate every hetro,bi,homo,metro etc sexual stuff you can think of.

Its just a picture or video right! :rolleyes:

Indeed. Refreshing honesty, something that has been missing from this thread recently. I masturbate to heterosexual porn too. Being in a relationship makes no difference to me, I still do it cause I have a high sex drive. Masturbation is natural and normal. Ergo, paedophiles do it to, but they do it to child porn which encourages more child porn to be circulated and produced thus harming more children. Something DJ_Jestar seems unable to grasp fully. He seems to think that some paedophiles never use child porn. He's living in a bubble.
 
Indeed. Refreshing honesty, something that has been missing from this thread recently. I masturbate to heterosexual porn too. Being in a relationship makes no difference to me, I still do it cause I have a high sex drive. Masturbation is natural and normal. Ergo, paedophiles do it to, but they do it to child porn which encourages more child porn to be circulated and produced thus harming more children. Something DJ_Jestar seems unable to grasp fully. He seems to think that some paedophiles never use child porn. He's living in a bubble.

Have you never masturbated without viewing porn? Is this something that is impossible for you? You should seek help. That's not healthy. I feel for you. :(
 
Have you never masturbated without viewing porn? Is this something that is impossible for you? You should seek help. That's not healthy. I feel for you. :(

Yes I've masturbated without viewing porn. Again, still unanswered, have you ever masturbated to porn ?
 
Yes I've masturbated without viewing porn. Again, still unanswered, have you ever masturbated to porn ?

So it is not impossible to masturbate without porn, just to be clear. Using only one's imagination and no viewing materials necessary.

So when a non-offending paedophile masturbates using only his or her imagination, if he or she even does masturbate at all, is this any different?
 
Have you never masturbated without viewing porn? Is this something that is impossible for you? You should seek help. That's not healthy. I feel for you. :(

They are the best ones I find, you just cannot beat a good bit of imagination! ;)

You can go anywhere and no harm inflicted. :D

I think?? :eek:
 
So it is not impossible to masturbate without porn, just to be clear. Using only one's imagination and no viewing materials necessary.

So when a non-offending paedophile masturbates using only his or her imagination, if he or she even does masturbate at all, is this any different?

Why can't you answer my question about masturbation ? Nothing to be embarrassed about, it's natural. Just answer. Have you ever masturbated to pornography ?

The problem with the rest of your question is that you are deliberately loading it in order to facilitate an answer that implies some paedophiles always use their imagination and never use pornography. This is fallacious reasoning. Yes everyone can use both and do, is the honest answer.
 
Bit facile of you. Who would download images and never view them ? You see them anyway most times before you click the download button. Let's not get hung up technicalities, it was clear what I meant.

I did understand the point you was making, but when it comes to law things and in the eye of the law, they have to fellow stuff to the letter.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these days the law doesn't discriminate between real children and drawing/depictions of "children", even if they are not human.

A "reasonable person" only has to be believe that the drawing depicts a minor for an offense to have been committed (the depiction has to be of a sexual nature).

This means that drawings of alien children from the Star Wars universe would be a criminal offense, under current UK law.

Not sure that a case has ever gone to court *purely* over such drawings, however.

Not sure what the alien children from Star Wars universe you are talking about, but the law is aimed and covers full blown out pornography and not "eechi" stuff that you will see me posting.

Though, I be honest, I have read the law and been part of many debates among other anime fans about it and it's still very hard to understand and not very clear how it relates to Anime and Manga.

[FnG]magnolia;26578563 said:
Do you understand why an observer may raise an eyebrow at someone ignorantly calling homosexuality an illness or defect who themselves enjoys and pays money for cartoons featuring children and teens in abhorrent sexual situations for their gratification?

I'm not going to play the 'do you ..?' game anymore but your foundations in this argument are shaky at absolute best.

Pedophilia is seen as a illness, why do you think homosexuality is any different? Is it because it's more accepted today then 20 or 50 years ago?

Is there any evidence to prove not? Clearly, humans wasn't meant to replicate with the same sex otherwise we would be hermaphrodites with both female and male parts as well as a female reproduction system.

Pedophilia and homosexuality is as old as each other and has been practiced as far back as each other. Only a 80-100+ years ago, it was common for older men to be married and have arranaged marriages to young teens.

Our own history in the westen world with the Royal Families are full of "under" age marriages.

Then there is the whole third world states where it's still practiced today, mostly islamatic countries, their prophet consummated their marriage when she was 10 and they got married when she was 6. Back then it was accepted. You could say that muslims worship a pedo.

I should say, am not against homosexuality or anything, I personally don't care what people do among themselves.
 
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Why can't you answer my question about masturbation ? Nothing to be embarrassed about, it's natural. Just answer. Have you ever masturbated to pornography ?

The problem with the rest of your question is that you are deliberately loading it in order to facilitate an answer that implies some paedophiles always use their imagination and never use pornography. This is fallacious reasoning. Yes everyone can use both and do, is the honest answer.
Aaaaand here we go again...

Citation needed.

Yes, you still haven't provided any evidence at all that backs that up. None. At all.
 
Not sure what the alien children from Star Wars universe you are talking about, but the law is aimed and covers full blown out pornography and not "eechi" stuff that you will see me posting.

Though, I be honest, I have read the law and been part of many debates among other anime fans about it and it's still very hard to understand and not very clear how it relates to Anime and Manga.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200809/ldbills/077/09077.36-42.html#j3_120

(7)

References to an image of a person include references to an image of an

imaginary person.
(8)

References to an image of a child include references to an image of an

imaginary child.

In 2009 they extended "child pornography" to include drawn images of imaginary children, and this includes imaginary non-human children.

Lots of manga, etc, is illegal in this country because of that. It counts as child porn!

More info here:

https://forensic4cast.com/2013/01/coroners-and-justice-act-2009/

Apparently the idea was that such images "increased demand for real child porn". So drawn/imaginary images are child porn too.
 
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