I think for many people it is as simple as "The Israelis look more like Us."
Voice your opposition to the Israeli actions for the past 65+ years
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I think for many people it is as simple as "The Israelis look more like Us."
Yet you can post the video as authoritative?
Don't think he'll be replying back DM post anytime soon.
Glad there is a thread on this in here as I've just found a loooong comment in reply to someone asking what's actually going on..
Good post but unfortunately, some people on this forum would rather listen to Pat Condell.
People don't want to hear about this being EXACTLY like apartheid South Africa.
They would rather believe this is Muslim Terrorists vs the Compassionate Israelis.
If Germany had won WW2 and we were now a Nazi occupied state, I guess we would just accept that and their restrictions on freedom. We would sit back and allow migrating Germans to take our homes and businesses and control our access to food, water and medical supplies. We would accept that any voice against the Nazi's will be met with harsh blockades. We would condemn those that fought against the Nazis with rudimentary weapons vs their technological and numerical superiorities, and more so, cry out against the terrorists trying to regain our freedom. We would accept that air strikes are the best way of dealing with that handful of militants and that people standing on rooftops begging not to have their homes and lives destroyed are human shields defending evil terrorists. (this has been going on since 1948 so almost as long a period).
Well not me, I would be one the guys trying to drive out the oppressors and regain my freedom by whatever means necessary.
This war is not about rockets firing from Gaza, it is about pure retaliation for the deaths of 3 Israeli teenagers in an illegal Israeli settlement in the west bank. The Israeli govt have not one shred of evidence for except for a voice recording of a phone call which has a hebrew speaking man telling the children to keep their heads down, and Hamas has denied having any involvement with. If it was West Bank terrorists why are they shelling Gaza? Because the West Bank is full of illegal Israeli settlements and Gaza isn't.
If you disagree with any of the things said in this video then please list your objections and back them up with evidence so as to prove that what is stated in the video is incorrect. If you can not do this then maybe it's best to keep quiet.
If you disagree with any of the things said in this video then please list your objections and back them up with evidence so as to prove that what is stated in the video is incorrect. If you can not do this then maybe it's best to keep quiet.
It's fine to admit that you're a hypocrit, really
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Glad there is a thread on this in here as I've just found a loooong comment in reply to someone asking what's actually going on..
since when was a regular mavity bomb a weapon of mass destruction
also amnesty have also admonished the Palestinians time and time again.
It's fine to admit that you're a hypocrit, really
I never made a claim. All I did was post a video. The claims made in this thread against the content of the video were made by people like you. You have the burden of proof to demonstrate your claim to be true, not me. If all you've got is an ad hominem against me, then I rest my case.
I never made a claim. All I did was post a video. The claims made in this thread against the content of the video were made by people like you. You have the burden of proof to demonstrate your claim to be true, not me. If all you've got is an ad hominem against me, then I rest my case.
As I said, it's hypocritical. You post a video thereby attempting to legitimise it as a valid and authoritative source, that you choose to ignore it being hypocritical is up to you. Rest whatever the hell you want too.
Just posting a video without any reasoning, this is GD I suppse.
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since when was a regular mavity bomb a weapon of mass destruction
also amnesty have also admonished the Palestinians time and time again.
Is that it or is there more?
I don't profess to know the answers to any of the statements made within that quote and it was one of the reasons to post it here..
Does anyone know a word that has the exact meaning as Moron but is not bannable? If so, please let me know for future reference.
Israel is EXACTLY not like apartheid South Africa. Arab citizens make up around 20% of the population and therefore form a minority. Arab citizens hold full voting rights, own property, can go to any schools, use the same buses, toilets, social services, etc. etc. etc. There are Arab-Israeli members of the MK (Parliament), ones who hold senior government positions, nurses, teachers, business people. There is even an Arab-Israeli Miss Israel (Rana Raslan) -don't mention it to anyone but the Israelis also voted in a "BLACK" as a Miss Israel (Yityish Anyaw). There are Arab-Israeli judges, one of whom sentenced an ex Israeli President on rape charges (Judge George Karra and ex President Moshe Katsav).
In a survey conducted a few years ago (http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=28218 they had this to say:
As an aside, I wonder if the 23% of the other countries better than Israel either included "terrorist" USA or even some of the more notable democracies in the Middle East where gays, blacks, Jews, women, critics of the state etc are generally all welcomed with open arms and offered access to the welfare system and national health system.
But it is. It is not a war against the Palestinian people per se. It is a war against a Muslim terrorist organisation (Hamas...and Hizbollah, Al Quds, Fatah al Islam etc in the broader context) firing rockets into Israel. I don't think Soda Stream played a major role here.
Unfortunately, the Gazans voted in Hamas (in contentious elections) so they are partly to blame for the misery they live in.
As above, it is about rockets. (56 last year and 11 mortar shells although a lower figure of 41 is quoted on the IDF Blog site) . None I believe from PA ruled West Bank but from Hamas controlled Gaza. This year before Operation Protective Edge, 450 were fired into Israel. Over 1000 have been fired since this operation has begun.
The tragedy with the 3 teenagers led to the arrest of Hamas sympathisers, supporters, fighters etc. This led to Hamas firing more rockets. The Arab teenager disgustingly killed in retaliation has already led to the arrest of 6 Jews. No one in the case of the Jewish teenagers has been produced by Hamas or the PA because they are either not capable or not capable and not interested. You do know there is a difference between a Hebrew speaking man and a man speaking Hebrew, right? Just in case you are trying to deliberately obfuscate the events by hinting that an Israeli kidnapped the kids to provoke an incident. What language do you think an Arab kidnapping Jewish Israelis is going to use to make himself understood?
Hamas has not claimed direct involvement as the bumbling murderers, realising they were rumbled by the phone call, murdered the kids immediately (or very shortly thereafter) as they thought the kidnapping was reported and they were about to be caught.
As there was no longer any political gain from the dead teenagers and no prisoner swop for their corpses, the bodies were dumped and Hamas do not want themselves associated with a bungled operation that got them no gain and only serves to show them up as the murdering terrorists they are.
About 30,000 Gazans have had to flee their homes so far to escape the Israeli ground offensive. Many more Palestinian civilians killed today and hundreds of civilians wounded.
Israel are basically waging war on an innocent civilian population.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israeli-attack-suburb-gaza-city-palestinians-shujaiiya
Israel are basically waging war on an innocent civilian population.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israeli-attack-suburb-gaza-city-palestinians-shujaiiya
This is an absolute tragedy but I don't think anywhere along the scale of Chongqing, Coventry, London, Dresden, Berlin, Kobe, Tokyo, Hiroshima or Nagasaki. In fact, I am willing to lay a bet none of the parties in that conflict dropped leaflets, made phonecalls or even attempted a "knock knock" warning.
One could argue that the majority of Germans were not Nazis nor even voted the Party in, however 44% did so innocents were also killed in the ensuing conflict