After 7 years, I think it's about time...

You obviously don't have much experience with women.

I forget everything I do wrong because there's no point us both remembering it. :D

Nah it's different ;) Women will remember every step you do wrong (I would say forget their wrongs, but hey women are always right!) but will loose their keys their phone their rings etc.
 
For starters don't get a ring, All she will care about is the proposal after that She will want to pick the ring.

You propose then you take her to pick a ring then you get your wallet out,JD.

Sage advice. I'd do it this way OP if I were you.
 
40x your yearly salary on an octahedral carbon allotrope with a certificate to prove it or you aint nothing.

It is actual 10^20 times your lifetime earning potential + 10^12 times your parents estate value with expected inflation and growth over their life expectancy. The ring needs to contain at least 1 whole carat of anti-matter with the necessary containing device and the fusion power station to keep it safe for the next 1000 years.
 
I agree, Ill never do this as it really seems to me like you are trying to own someone who is already owned. Father has nothing to do with this at all I dont even think its polite to do this.

It is polite because it is a well intended tradition, not some seedy transaction.
 
Proposal wise I recommend getting a bit hammered and blurting it out while blubbing in a fairly average hotel room, thus avoiding ruining the plans I had for later that evening by being anxious about it.
 
I proposed to a girl outside the Colosseum in ROME & She loved it...... but then a year later another guy proposed to her on top of the Empire State building lol ! So she did bloody well if you ask me , Shes now married to another guy ......

All i can say from my experience is just go with it ! She won't expect it to start with and to be honest I've never known a girl to ever say Nooo ......... They always say yes no matter what the situation , Just make it romantic and in the evening when its getting dark is always best.
 
You need to do what works for you, not what an internet forum tells you to do.

I proposed to my wife in her parents back garden on easter sunday after a family event (easter egg hunt with my niece and nephews) with a haribo ring, after asking her dad for his grace on the friday night.

It was exactly what she had wanted, and she was delighted.
 
OP timing is excellent, but you need to move quick before the Argos sale ends. Not only are they cheap, but also great with returns when you find out it's the wrong size or she turns you down - or both!
 
Asking her father - if it's a gesture you think they'd appreciate, then go for it. But there's no necessity.

Taking a different ring of hers to measure - Well she certainly won't already have a ring on that finger, and other fingers will be a different size, so not sure about this. Same finger on the right hand is likely to be approximately the same of course, but no guarantee it's the same size.

As to whether to pick a ring yourself and surprise her, or propose without a ring and let her choose - that's got to be down to which you think she would be most delighted with.
 
Paris is not romantic..
An orange sunset walk along a beach is romantic..

Oh... and YOU FOOL OP :p

:D

The way I'd deal with it would be the more surprising, the better, if you go on holiday very rarely but then all of a sudden REALLY start getting interested in exotic locations then she'll suss it.
Go asking her about ring sizes and she'll suss it. Go snooping about in her stuff looking for one and she'll notice.

Something my old man did which was quite good I thought (I guess we both think the same way) He bought her a simple little teddybear for Christmas... She opened it in front of all the family and was like "aww cute, thank you"....
Then noticed the ring on it's paw. :D:D:D:D:D:D
SURPRISE :D
 
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