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The 8 core Intel thread.

Mal, if you read the thread he bought for £110.
These wont be good for gaming, some games like cores others like mhz. Don't know many games (if any??) that thread much beyond 8 anyway. Curious what kind of Physics scores this chip can push out for 3D11/3DMark etc.
 
Tonester0011 said:
Mal, if you read the thread he bought for £110.
These wont be good for gaming, some games like cores others like mhz. Don't know many games (if any??) that thread much beyond 8 anyway. Curious what kind of Physics scores this chip can push out for 3D11/3DMark etc.
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yea but there's a Xeon that's the same as the i7 but that one was only quad core, i read about it earlier on but cant find it now.... but if that Xeon was as good as an I7, it tells you that others might be just as good too, the others i saw were DDR4 as well
 
I have read other posts by the thread starter. He tends to troll and flame a lot.

He thinks AMD are the best you can get. Don't give this child your time.

The best way to deal with Trolls is to ignore them.

I won't be posting in this thread again.
 
Andy7 said:
I have read other posts by the thread starter. He tends to troll and flame a lot.

He thinks AMD are the best you can get. Don't give this child your time.

The best way to deal with Trolls is to ignore them.

I won't be posting in this thread again.
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that's not nice, you need to grow up a bit, Andy is just enthusiastic that's all

Intel Xeon E5-2650v2 2.60GHz 8-Core with Hyperthreading & Turbo..... this one looks like the new Haswell E :D
 
ALXAndy said:
OK so I decided to start a new thread. Basically this is for threading/usage.

If any one is bonkers enough to to 8 core Haswell E, let us know how you get on.

I've ordered an 8 core Ivy as per the other threads, and just found a Gigabyte UD3 for £55 delivered. So I will be benching pretty hard to see what sort of core use I get. I'll also be comparing it to Sandy E and a good clocking FX 8320.

More to come soon.
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So, you're going to compare a locked xeon at 2Ghz to an overclocked 8 core amd? That sounds entirely fair, a true apples to apples comparison :o
 
Andy7 said:
You were also trolling and flaming in the same thread.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18601792

Probably the same person. Goodbye.
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I thought you weren't posting any more? that's an awful lot of posting for some one who isn't posting.

And you call me a troll?

Do us a favour and do one eh? this thread was not posted to troll anything. In fact, it's me spending my time to provide information that could prove to be very important..

I wasn't talking to you in the latter part of my post, but it seems you're unable to deal with a post that addresses more than one person.

I'm still running a Westmere Xeon rig with a pair of 670s in SLI and I've noticed no ills when playing the latest games. So, I will have to get FRAPS on it and include that in the testing too before it gets shipped to its new owners. The Westmere only clocks at 1.78ghz on all 6 cores.
 
wazza300 said:
think it would even out tho? highish clocked 4core/8thread vs low clocked 8core/16thread xeon?
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If the architecture is roughly the same, 4ghz quad core should roughly keep pace with a 2ghz oct core. There's some subtlety in how cache is handled, but provided the code is something heavily numeric they should roughly match. Single threaded code would behave rather better on the quad of course, but who buys an eight core chip for single threaded code :)

Dave2150 said:
So, you're going to compare a locked xeon at 2Ghz to an overclocked 8 core amd? That sounds entirely fair, a true apples to apples comparison :o
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Doesn't sound fair to me either. I'm betting on the Xeon winning conclusively on floating point operations (twice as many floating point units). I can't imagine any other reason to buy an eight core chip, so that seems sufficient.
 
i think this thread is really good, it would be interesting to know:-

1....can i get an existing multi core Xeon that is as good, or close to my 4770k

2....do we buy this Haswell 8 core cpu, or do we go for an existing Xeon that none of us have noticed before

if so we need to know its part no.
 
JonJ678 said:
What benchmark do you have in mind? I could run something from the Linux world this week, but probably nothing from Windows.
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hi thanks
i dont mind, i'm not sure which Xeon either, i was wondering if anyone knew of a good candidate worth testing. ...maybe

Intel Xeon E5-2690v2 3.00GHz 10-Core
Intel Xeon E5-2650v2 2.60GHz 8-Core
Intel Xeon E5-2697v2 2.70GHz 12-Core

if any of these is close to mine ( they're very expensive) but you might be able to find one cheap on ebay.

edit.........UUM NO I DONT THINK SO, the cheapest 12 core i saw was £ 1150 on ebay .....they use these CPUs in fully rendered 3D Graphics/ Autocad/servers.....i saw their huge rigs, it makes our PCs look like Mickey Mouse......................so i'm just going to quietly sneak out of here and close the door behind me :eek::eek:
 
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Am I right in thinking a quad core amd like an fx4300 at 4ghz will be pretty much half of an fx8350 at 4ghz on cinebench. Whereas an intel clock for clock is much faster but hyper threading doesn't double the speed it's more like x1.5?
 
Mal X said:
i think this thread is really good, it would be interesting to know:-

1....can i get an existing multi core Xeon that is as good, or close to my 4770k

2....do we buy this Haswell 8 core cpu, or do we go for an existing Xeon that none of us have noticed before

if so we need to know its part no.
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For gaming you'd never pick the chip in the OP over a 4770K. At 2.3GHZ (It being an Ivy Octo core) it'll be less powerful overall than your 4770K at 4.6GHZ. In fact it should never beat a 4.6GHZ 4770K.
 
Sylver123 said:
The thread title should have been called "The 8 core Intel vs 8 core AMD thread" because this is what the discussions in here will all be about and is probably the main intention of creating this thread.
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Technically it's an 8 core Intel vs a 4 module AMD as the FX-8 series are not true octocores (hence why they compete against the i7 quad).


Mal X said:
Intel Xeon E5-2650v2 2.60GHz 8-Core with Hyperthreading & Turbo..... this one looks like the new Haswell E :D
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Shouldn't it be a V3 if it's Haswell? V2 implies IB based Xeon.
 
ubersonic said:
Technically it's an 8 core Intel vs a 4 module AMD as the FX-8 series are not true octocores (hence why they compete against the i7 quad).
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Yeah and it's not even worth comparing a 6 core Intel to an AMD FX let alone an 8 core Intel (consumer grade that is not niche/gimped server version), the only time the AMD will be competitive is when the CPU has low usage and isn't the bottleneck (high res gaming generally).

Martini1991 said:
For gaming you'd never pick the chip in the OP over a 4770K. At 2.3GHZ (It being an Ivy Octo core) it'll be less powerful overall than your 4770K at 4.6GHZ. In fact it should never beat a 4.6GHZ 4770K.
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Yeah it'll have the same limitations AMD FX has, little piddly cores requiring highly threaded and/or massively GPU bottlenecked games to perform at the same level as a fast quad core and not all games are even suited to a high amount of threads. It's shouldn't come as a surprise that AMD are ditching modular architecture and going back to bigger cores (and will be better for it).
 
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there must be something wrong with the Xeons, other than price, because you dont see gamers using them and that might be good enough for us.

the priority is to make sure my 4770K is running ok, i'm not sure what to do, shall i wait another two months till i've got the money, or shall i put the new mobo in my old rig, just for half an hour ...to test the temps !!!!!

will my old i5 rig still work if i put in my new mobo, just to test it, it's windows 7, but i'll need to load up the Gigabite software disc ?????

i cant stand not knowing if that CPU is working
 
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windows 7 will sort out the drivers needed,dont use gigabyte disc it will be outdated

just let windows do its thing
 
Mal X said:
there must be something wrong with the Xeons, other than price, because you dont see gamers using them and that might be good enough for us.

the priority is to make sure my 4770K is running ok, i'm not sure what to do, shall i wait another two months till i've got the money, or shall i put the new mobo in my old rig, just for half an hour ...to test the temps !!!!!

will my old i5 rig still work if i put in my new mobo, just to test it, it's windows 7, but i'll need to load up the Gigabite software disc ?????

i cant stand not knowing if that CPU is working
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I don't fully understand what you're getting at.

The Xeon in the OP is an 8 core Ivy essentially, 16 threads.

But its clock speed is limited and it can't be overclocked.

They're vastly overpriced IMO, but they're that way because you could put multiple amounts of them into boards, for servers etc.

They're not meant for the average gamer.

Sure, at 110 pound if you can utilize every single thread they're stonking price/performance, but that's a very specialized case.
 
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