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AMD Tonga arrives in August, replaces Tahiti PRO

FoxEye said:
They claim Maxwell 20nm is coming 2H 2014. I thought we'd already ascertained that all 2014 Maxwells are 28nm?

Seems like more hype and baseless optimism. Various people already reported there would be no 20nm until mid-late 2015.
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everything and anything like this on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt, thats just stating the obvious.

The time frame is unlikely but the specifications are believable, its that what i'm referring to.
 
The post is now fixed: http://www.chiploco.com/amd-iceland-tonga-new-technologies-35155/

It was all due to bad Google Translation. Anyway, I am sorry for the misleading information.

Anyway, back to some facts:
1. Tonga is based on Tahiti (GCN 1.0). Its alleged specs peg it above R9 280. There were some reports that Tonga is a new GPU based on GCN 2.0 architecture but they turned out to be wrong.
2. Both Tonga and Iceland will come with UAV/FCR.
3. Hawaii XTX (if its coming) will not have UAC/FCR.
4. R9 3xx series will have UAV/FCR.
 
FoxEye said:
They claim Maxwell 20nm is coming 2H 2014. I thought we'd already ascertained that all 2014 Maxwells are 28nm?

Seems like more hype and baseless optimism. Various people already reported there would be no 20nm until mid-late 2015.
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Yes, all 2014 Maxwell chips will be 28nm. But AMD might be able to get their hands on 20nm early. Actually, from what I've heard (I would take this with a grain of salt but this explanation is pretty plausible), 20nm was ready for GPUs but at last minute, it was all consumed by Apple. And obviously, foundries preferred Apple over NVIDIA/AMD. But NVIDIA has now shifted Maxwell to 28nm so the 20nm is surely not coming. But AMD's position is not clear yet.
 
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they did openly say at the time they stayed 28nm because it was better cost/performance

but then they both admitted to cutting back development costs and replacing just the top card due to economic uncertainty!? meaning it will be slow for a year or 2 but is good for the long term
 
AFQ said:
Yes, all 2014 Maxwell chips will be 28nm. But AMD might be able to get their hands on 20nm early. Actually, from what I've heard (I would take this with a grain of salt but this explanation is pretty plausible), 20nm was ready for GPUs but at last minute, it was all consumed by Apple. And obviously, foundries preferred Apple over NVIDIA/AMD. But NVIDIA has not shifted Maxwell to 28nm so the 20nm is surely not coming. But AMD's position is not clear yet.
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I think you meant "Maxwell to 20nm, so the 20nm is surely not coming"?
 
Resa69 said:
4200+ stream processors wow. Single gpu 4k gaming is on its way
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Dream on it is not going to happen, only in some zealots imagination.

As to gaming on a single card @4K, you would need 12000+ stream processors and by the time that happens in about 4 or 5 years time games would have moved on and need a lot more anyway.:D
 
Orangey said:
By then SPs might not even be how it's done anymore. :)
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+1

Could be an entirely different architecture all together.

I also think that people get too hung up quoting SPs when comparing AMD and NVidia cards or even cards from different generations. It is a bit like comparing cores in an AMD bulldozer CPU to an Intel 5960X CPU. They are totally different architectures that perform differently with different efficiencies.
 
Kaapstad said:
Dream on it is not going to happen, only in some zealots imagination.

As to gaming on a single card @4K, you would need 12000+ stream processors and by the time that happens in about 4 or 5 years time games would have moved on and need a lot more anyway.:D
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I think gaming on monitors 4K or not will become less important to GPU manufactures and game developers with the speed at which VR headset development is proceeding.
 
shamus21 said:
I think gaming on monitors 4K or not will become less important to GPU manufactures and game developers with the speed at which VR headset development is proceeding.
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no way, that Headset thing is miles away.

but seeing it just now with the new Aliens game and it actually looks pretty good, this means you dont need a monitor...i do like the idea that you can dodge bullets and move into cover by just tilting your head to the left.... your movements are now semi-automatic just like in real life.

the big problem that it needs to solve is field of view, because a tv is rubbish compared to real life which is virtually 170 degrees
 
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