Need help choosing a new car

Why?

I bought my car a few months ago, 2008 A3 1.8t FSI S-Line S-Tronic Sportback, 29k miles - £9995.

There are still such cars out there on autotrader and your budget is £10k... Manual cars are £1500 cheaper.

Spending £10k on a 6 year old car first released in 2003 is rarely the answer to anything.
It's great if you're the first owner and you've just lost a tiny amount in depreciation, but frankly, there are better, newer, higher purchase priced cars that are considerably cheaper because people think they're too difficult to park, or old man cars, or something.
There's nothing wrong with what is basically a Mk5 Golf, it's just about three generations old now (or would be if Audi had bothered replacing it with a newer model when they should have - seriously, 10 years?) and is a car I would expect to be paying about £5k for at this point. I can't see the attraction.
 
I owned a ford focus mk1, it was terrible, bits fell off it every day.

I owned an 8L A3 and bits fell off that every bloody day!

Seeing as we're just chucking around random statements

Anyway the op is still looking at them, but has realised the golf and Octavia are cheaper for a newer car. The same logic most rational people go through
 
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Oh jeez.

The A3 is a solid car, still desirable by the masses and that's presumably why Audi haven't changed the winning formula since 03 but.. it's still ancient now. I really like them and that's why I keep mines but there's definitely a lot more for the money out there, especially equipment wise which it seems the OP was after.

There's no more to argue. :p
 
I think you are jealous tbh. You don't give any other reason why you hate Audis so much.

You realise your 2008 Audi is nothing special right? Oh.... You didn't.

Tesco sell tissues.

The focus has always been a fantastic car, guy at works runs a mk1, nothing gone wrong with it, hasn't drowned in any puddles or gone seeking out lakes to ingest some water either.
 
But you can't buy one for £5k.

Just because you can't buy one for £5k doesn't mean they're worth £10k to me, hence my post. Some people might buy them for £10k. I don't understand why, for the reasons I listed above.

Much the same as why a Mk4 Golf R32 isn't worth £8k to me and why I would struggle to recommend one, even though some people clearly buy them at £8k.

Give me £10k to buy a car and no matter what my requirements, I can just about guarantee a 6 year old A3 would not be on my shortlist, because there are better, faster, older cars or better, faster, newer cars or better, more spacious, newer cars or better, more economical, newer cars or better, more reliable cars available for the same money..
 
If they are only worth £5k then you would be able to buy one for £5k.
Obviously, they are actually worth £10k because you don't know what you are talking about.

Worth to you is different to worth. You rightly say "worth to me" but Janesy says "worth".
 
If they are only worth £5k then you would be able to buy one for £5k.
Obviously, they are actually worth £10k because you don't know what you are talking about.

Worth to you is different to worth. You rightly say "worth to me" but Janesy says "worth".

No, there is no logical reason why an A3 is worth more than a newer, better Golf. People pay more for them for the brand, nothing more. What can you not grasp about that?

If you don't care about the brand and you're not some quasi-middle class commuter belt stereotype 20-something with a Jack Wills sweatshirt and neon ray bans, why pay more for the older more inferior car?

It's an 'aspirational' thing, god knows why.
 
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If they are only worth £5k then you would be able to buy one for £5k.
Obviously, they are actually worth £10k because you don't know what you are talking about.

Worth to you is different to worth. You rightly say "worth to me" but Janesy says "worth".

Since I don't understand how they're worth anything near to £10k, can you explain why they are? (Genuine question)

Currently the only way I can explain it is that because they have high residuals, despite the high purchase price they will still depreciate slowly making total cost of ownership similar to cheaper cars, but that just gives a chicken and egg situation and doesn't explain why they're 'worth' more in the first place. Plus entails more risk as more capital is tied up in a depreciating asset.
 
Because they are better made than the equivalent Golf they are based on. I drove a mk5 before I bought this - horrid inside, compared to the 8P2 and above at least.

Audi get criticised for releasing the same car for 11 years but why change what works? Instead they facelifted it.

The depreciate slower hence they are still WORTH £10k. They might not be worth it to you but to the majority they are, otherwise there would be no point to companies like Glass.

For the average, female 20 year old, an F10 M5 is not worth £90k, this doesn't mean that an F10 M5 is too expensive does it?
 
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Because they are better made than the equivalent Golf they are based on. I drove a mk5 before I bought this - horrid inside, compared to the 8P2 and above at least.

Audi get criticised for releasing the same car for 11 years but why change what works? Instead they facelifted it.

The depreciate slower hence they are still WORTH £10k. They might not be worth it to you but to the majority they are, otherwise there would be no point to companies like Glass.

For the average, female 20 year old, an F10 M5 is not worth £90k, this doesn't mean that an F10 M5 is too expensive does it?

Perhaps, it was a lovely car to drive, very smooth and precise, but I wouldn't have paid more than £7500 for it. It had a stereo with Aux and climate control and that was it.

What is a good price to pay for a 2009 1.8T FSI Elegance, or 2.0T VRS? Everything seems to be between £9-10k, despite book value being a lot lower?
 
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Ladies ladies :D

A3 is not happening, I quickly realised that is was a box on wheels for £10k. Currently seriously looking at Skoda Octavia Elegance, but only if I can find that model in 1.8T FSI, or maybe a VRs if I can find a good one under £9k :) Curse you lot, I was trying to be sensible!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif..._old/onesearchad/used,nearlynew,new?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...model/octavia/keywords/VRS/usedcars?logcode=p

The Skoda Octavia VRS is very nice.

If you've owned an Astra VXR before the running costs won't be any worse.
 
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Audi get criticised for releasing the same car for 11 years but why change what works? Instead they facelifted it.

Thera no getting around the 8P feels old, yes it been facelifted twice and well built but it's still an 11 year old chassis with the tired infotainment system. I liked it, I did nearly 70k in mine, but at 10k I would look elsewhere.
 
I bought a 2005 DSG 2.0T for 9k around 5 years ago. When I was I'm the market for a new car I considered a newer 8P but they just weren't value for money.
 
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