How do we get SUPER cheap stuff??

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Morning,

I wonder if any economics students or graduates or those involved in wholesale at a high level might be able to help me out??

I get the idea behind cheap stuff per say. Producing a product as cheaply as possible, using cheap material, cheap labour, producing in bulk etc, etc....

However, I can't make sense of SUPER cheap stuff, not loss leaders, just stuff that is inexplicably cheap....


I recently got an iPhone 5 charger for £1.
It's better than the proper apple one that fell apart after a couple of months.
I've since bought cheap replacements for anything between £5 - £10 and they've all fallen apart.
This one, £1, is great. It travels with me and is very robust, good quality, and cost a solitary pound.

It got me thinking. It's a unique design, not a bootleg*, it's a different shape, different materials etc.

So, someone had to design it. Someone had to do this on CAD, had to knock up prototypes to make sure it works, someone had to pick the materials, source them, either get the machines to make the charger or find someone who's already bought the machines.
All these people work in buildings and pay rent, electricity, water etc, they all need a wage.
Someone needs to design the packaging, someone has to print the packaging, someone has to then physically package it.
Someone from the factory has to get paid to load a lorry, someone has to buy that lorry, someone has to fill that lorry with fuel and drive it to a port.
You need a container, it needs to go on a boat, the boat needs to cover the cost of taxes, crew, fuel.
You need to make arrangements with a port in England, where labour is exponentially dearer than in the far East where we began.
More labour, lorries etc.
Then it arrives in a shop, staff paid at least minimum wage, someone is paying rent on that shop, again electricity, tax, council tax, etc...

Then I buy it for £1, and that pound is enough per unit that everyone along that chain makes enough profit for it all to be worthwhile.

That really doesn't make any sense to me. There's no way there's profit in that?!

I won't go into the same boring detail, but the other day I stopped off at Asda on route home to pick up a red onion. It cost 2p. How can ANYTHING cost 2p and be worth the while of everyone involved in getting it to the till?


Cheers

* - Bootlegs. As I understand it, in the Far East big factories will for example, churn out official iPhone 5 chargers all day, for Apple, using all the legit designs and materials etc. Come night time, the day shift go home, bootleg shift comes in and the factory carries on over night making the exact same product, same materials etc, except this time it's not branded and is sold super cheap. Obviously a cheaper way than the above becaue the vast majority is done for you.
I might be wrong, feel free to correct me :)
 
With that specific example, it's more likely the official Apple one and this 3rd party one cost a similar amount to design and produce, just the Apple one is marked up much more, with Apple taking the profits.

The profit on a single unit like this at each step is insignificantly small, but because the number of units is huge so it makes sense (for the manufacturer, transporter, etc.).

Where did you buy the 3rd party one from? Might have saved on the retail overheads by buying online/direct.
 
Assuming you got your charger in a pound shop, they were bought (usually from China) heavily discounted from their original price. They were surplus stock from a batch that used to cost £10 for example and someone was desperate to get rid of them as they are now either not selling/outdated/replaced etc etc.

Pound shops will get these items for in large quantities with a very thin profit margin (say 80-90p) but will sometimes pay over the £1 they would sell it for, if they consider the item would likely attract new customers who would most likely buy a few other things while getting this "bargain charger".
 
If an iPhone/pad gets returned for refund/DSR/replacement to Apple then the chargers get put in a big box of them, tested, refurbed, sold on the cheap.
 
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You have an outlay at the start to get it running, but once it's running and if it becomes a success then you start making money, you're in it for the long haul :)
 
While I agree that Apple chargers straight from Apple are crazy expensive for what they are, I probably wouldn't want to go with a dirt cheap one either.

In my mind it always comes down to 'you get what you pay for'.
 
If you'll indulge the slightly related aside:

How do you find a manufacturer for something? There's an area of interest of mine that involves products mainly made in India or China, but the markup in the UK is staggering - perhaps 500% and greater.

Can I track down the makers and buy singly from them?
 
Cheap products are subsidised by the blood, sweat, tears and often lives of the labour that are forced to make them.
 
If you'll indulge the slightly related aside:

How do you find a manufacturer for something? There's an area of interest of mine that involves products mainly made in India or China, but the markup in the UK is staggering - perhaps 500% and greater.

Can I track down the makers and buy singly from them?

Most manufacturing is done on a license to prevent exactly that from happening.
 
Chris [BEANS];26719128 said:
I won't go into the same boring detail, but the other day I stopped off at Asda on route home to pick up a red onion. It cost 2p. How can ANYTHING cost 2p and be worth the while of everyone involved in getting it to the till?

As others have already mentioned, it's all about scale.

They might make 0.1p profit on that 2p onion, but when you're selling 1,000,000 onions a day, those 0.1ps soon add up.
 
With that specific example, it's more likely the official Apple one and this 3rd party one cost a similar amount to design and produce, just the Apple one is marked up much more, with Apple taking the profits.

The profit on a single unit like this at each step is insignificantly small, but because the number of units is huge so it makes sense (for the manufacturer, transporter, etc.).

Where did you buy the 3rd party one from? Might have saved on the retail overheads by buying online/direct.

Accessories are marked up far more than the product.

E.g. on selling a 2000 pound DSLR a camera shop will make more profit on selling an extra battery, or a bag, or a filter etc.
 
That's the shop's markup which is only one link in the chain. The cost of actually producing a DSLR is still high.
 
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