Interesting, looks like a balanced source.
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Interesting, looks like a balanced source.
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They started aur strikes to stop irbil being taken as that is a major asset of the KRG and Iraq.
A site called stop war calls bull on part of one war and advocates getting involved in another?
Besides I believe the USA and uk wanted an excuse to get involved in Iraq again. ISIS clearly are causing issues so a humanitarian act is a good cover to go in on.
Besides I believe the USA and uk wanted an excuse to get involved in Iraq again. ISIS clearly are causing issues so a humanitarian act is a good cover to go in on.
Wow a right wing Islamic site that hides under the pretence of stopping war.
There is a reliable source if ever i saw one.
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lol
The more I read/hear about Islam the more I dislike it.
Many people who had no interest in Islam or politics are waking up to the problem with Islam. Its involved in conflicts/terrorism all over the world not just the west.
The west, China, Russia and Africa all have problems with Islam and its aggressive tendencies. Calling people Islamophobic no longer washes for me and to think Labour were going to make it illegal to be Islamophobic.
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Right wing Islamic site founded by Lindsey German and John Rees ? Seems a little odd as they don't appear to be right wing Muslamics....
Even though they advocate stopping war, it's in their name, what do you think is their real motive?
Lol, what does that have anything to do with what you quoted aside from your usual anti-Muslim tirade?
Looking at every item on that site, that i can be bother to look at. it seems it's a totally anti west and Israel site.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, and the above is not true. And I would would guess both of them are being paid by a middle east state somewhere, on top of their TV appearances in the middle east.
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I guess since they set up around the Iraq war time and most wars since have involved the US/Allies and Middle East/African countries that wouldn't be suprising.
Also I'm sure they have some items about Ukraine there.
Anyhow how to we go from there to being a right wing Islamic site? please do explain. Russians are anti-west you could say but I don't think that would classify them as right wing Islamics...
Source? Seems to me they are funded by donations on their website.
And it appears that most of the local groups are run by Michaels, Jane's and Penny's, unless they are covert agents of the Islamic republic?
http://stopwar.org.uk/get-involved/local-groups
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So why does the site not condemn the atrocities carried out by Muslims in Mali, China, Nigeria, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, Chad, Somalia etc. where far more people have been killed.
Then they go on to blame everything on the west in the middle east when we all know who is at fault.
And Ukraine articles the only ones I can see, are in reference to the middle east. in effect more anti west stuff.
It's quite clear they will be on the books somewhere in the middle east. As the best type of propaganda for the middle east right wingers, is some one who is white and Christian. The exact same way here within the UK if a white Christian converts, they are always put in the lime light by the likes of the right wing scum such as Choudary.
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I guess the name of the organisation gives it away. StopWar?
Really?
http://stopwar.org.uk/statements/no-to-nato-military-exercises-in-ukraine#.U-0xROl0yUk
Seems they are consistent at least.
We do, who was at fault for Iraq? If recollection serves me well it was Tony Blair and George Bush?
Again source? And again they raise funds through donations on their site. Seems the organisation is run by typical anti-war brits who initially opposed the illegal Iraq war?
Seems you are spewing a whole load of nonsense backed up by only your imagination and simply just digging yourself a deeper hole? If your conspiracy is indeed true perhaps you should contact MI5 as I'm sure they would be glad to assist with your discovery.
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some of their beheading videos have made it on youtube 
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Yay ! Nouri al maliki has gone ! If only it wasn't for all the fiddling while rome burns
So if masses of people are killing masses of people what do you call that?
But of course you are another Islam can do no wrong poster. Instead of offering a balanced view.
Clearly i have no actual proof they are receiving direct funds from the middle east. But there are no ifs or but they are making a killing from tv appearances on middle east stations etc. Money talks.
As for the Choudary remark
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/bbcthree/2011/04/my-brother-the-islamist.shtml gives a good view on how he works.
Craterloads, are you pro-ISIS? That website is for sure pro-ISIS. They are against anybody taking any military action against ISIS, so they must be quite happy with everything ISIS are doing.
And just because they're called StopWar means nothing. Anybody can give their organisation an misleading name. It's basic Propaganda 101. Give us *some* credit.
And just because they're called StopWar means nothing. Anybody can give their organisation an misleading name. It's basic Propaganda 101. Give us *some* credit.
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I'm guessing not war. Also this is a British organisation which mainly opposes British involvement in Wars.
Derp OK, coming from a guy who just accused StopWar.org of being a far right Islamic organisation and admitted he was talking out of his ass....
Well that settled then you were talking out of your ass.
Lol Source?
What does that have to do with StopWar.Org?
Yawn, yawn i could break down 99% of your post on here exactly the same if you want me to.
And simple state you are talking our of your right wing ass.
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Of coarse not
They are
That's contradictory of themselves. It seems the article in question pretty much just covers what the US have discovered themselves, that there are not 250,000 trapped on a mountain awaiting execution.
It's an organisation setup and founded by middle class "white" Britons who were against the illegal Iraq war of 2003. You remember the people partly behind the one of the biggest protests in history where 2 million people marched against the Iraq war.
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I'm not the one making ridiculous claims that can not be substantiated and throwing his toys out when called out
Look if you made a mistake, just move on it happens sometimes.
I'm not the one making ridiculous claims that can not be substantiated and throwing his toys out when called out
Look if you made a mistake, just move on it happens sometimes.
Poor psychology ploy there.. Yawn yawn
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I was trying to give you a ladder