LG OLEDs getting cheaper and cheaper

Warbie · 12 Aug 2014 at 11:31

http://www.avforums.com/news/lg-to-...ure-quality-gap-with-cut-price-oled-tvs.10577

Even if it ends up as 3.5K for a 55" that's much cheaper/sooner than many of us were expecting - and they're only going to get bigger and cheaper! The next few years are going to be interesting.

NexusK · 12 Aug 2014 at 11:36

OLED has been carrot on the stick for too many years already, by the time they become mainstream and drop to normal prices i'll be drawing my pension.

Warbie · 12 Aug 2014 at 11:42

As soon as it hits 2K for 55" or 3K for 60"+ I'll be selling my panels and won't look back.

XeNoN89 · 12 Aug 2014 at 11:51

I really want OLED to drop soon as well. My TV is now getting to the age where it can go wrong at any point, I want to be able to replace it with an OLED when that happens!

I'm one of the people been looking forward to it for years, I don't care about 4k, I just want reasonably priced OLED!

Amp34 · 12 Aug 2014 at 12:41

3.5k is pretty cheap... That's what we paid for our plasma about 10 years ago. It's only the last 3-4 years that LCD have become so cheap reasonable quality ones can be picked up for less than £1k.

I'm just waiting for a reasonably priced 4k OLED screen to come out. Hopefully within the next two years we will have a 60"+ 4k OLED screen for about £3k. It seems a reasonable bet considering the price of the one in the OP.

Attu90 · 12 Aug 2014 at 16:57

60"+ 4k OLED screen for about £3k, Yes please

NexusK · 12 Aug 2014 at 17:10

Probably be a few years before you see that price, this years price is £6,000 for a 65" 4K LG one.

I'm not even fussed with 4K and would be more than happey with a normal 50" 1080p one if they'd come down to where i can afford them.

Amp34 · 12 Aug 2014 at 21:21

I think when we get to 60"+ 4k will come into its own. I'm actually most tempted by a 4k projector so I can gave a 100" screen but if I could get an 80" 4k OLED TV for a reasonable amount then I'd take that over it!

Given how the cost has dropped in the last year or so I don't see an issue with the price halving in two years. £6k now, £3k in 2016. Seems reasonable?

Warbie · 12 Aug 2014 at 22:23

Amp34 said:
I think when we get to 60"+ 4k will come into its own. I'm actually most tempted by a 4k projector so I can gave a 100" screen but if I could get an 80" 4k OLED TV for a reasonable amount then I'd take that over it!

Given how the cost has dropped in the last year or so I don't see an issue with the price halving in two years. £6k now, £3k in 2016. Seems reasonable?

A 4K projector costs silly money at the moment. The again, you can have a screen size that makes 80" look tiny

For me the sweet spot is around 50-60" for TVs - looks great with video games, movies, sky hd etc. A projector is for when you want to be smacked in in the face and thrown around the room by the movie experience!

lucid · 12 Aug 2014 at 22:25

You do realise that LG's OLED technology isn't a true RGB panel. Also, the reason LG is forcing prices down is dominate the market before the rest of the manufacturers have a chance to overtake with a better product.

As exciting as OLED promises to be, there's still some substantial hurdles to overcome. The main issue after the difference in the competing panel technologies is pixel fade. Anyone with an amioled-screened smartphone will know what that looks like.

Amp34 · 13 Aug 2014 at 13:00

Warbie said:
A 4K projector costs silly money at the moment. The again, you can have a screen size that makes 80" look tiny For me the sweet spot is around 50-60" for TVs - looks great with video games, movies, sky hd etc. A projector is for when you want to be smacked in in the face and thrown around the room by the movie experience!

This would be for a "film" room so bigger is better. As you say the 4k projectors are just obscene at the moment so we shall have to wait and see how that changes for 2016. That's when I'm likely to buy one.

Richeh · 13 Aug 2014 at 14:45

New PJ's should be announced in September, am hoping to see a sub £5k 4k one but doubtful.

As lucid said OLED is not without its issues, some are very serious. I can't really ever see OLED becoming big unless they can get out sub £2k panels before 4K LED becomes the norm, which is also not likely to happen anytime soon as the content is a very slow trickle.

jh30uk · 13 Aug 2014 at 16:27

Optoma have a good few new PJ's on site now and a few not on site (UK anyhow).

HD50
HD36
HD26
HD141X
HD151X
HD161X

Mel_P · 18 Aug 2014 at 00:06

Excuse my lack of knowledge - do OLEDs "fade" with time faster than LCDs?

jh30uk · 18 Aug 2014 at 00:10

Earlier ones yes so were not able to be launched years back.

Look up the new ones and see the life time they claim if its even listed.

lucid · 18 Aug 2014 at 00:33

Mel_P said:
Excuse my lack of knowledge - do OLEDs "fade" with time faster than LCDs?

The panel of an LCD (and LED) TV shouldn't fade at all. LCD screens work like thousands of tiny shutters. Each one is a pixel. It opens and closes to either pass or block light. The light is filtered to create red, green or blue dots of light.

OLED devices are closer to plasma in the way they work. The light source is created directly by light emitted from a substance that glows when excited in a specific way. The substance has a finite life span. It decays with use.

james.miller · 18 Aug 2014 at 00:35

Take up of oled has been very slow. Don't know about £3.5k/55" being sooner than we thought - that's still a while off and we've been waiting 7-odd years just to get to this point. They obviously do still have some big hurdles to get over otherwise I can't think why its taken this long and we still have nothing mainstream available.

Not sure why LGs oled not being true rgb is such an issue - none of the best oled panels are.

champ222 · 18 Aug 2014 at 09:21

Has anyone seen an OLED properly set up in the home?

I was interested in seeing one, since they've promised to be all things to all men for years, but when I saw one in a shop, it just looked like any other LCD to me....

It was obviously in shop mode, but it was nowhere near as natural looking as a plasma, my personal favourite.

Hopefully it was just the shops settings and bright lights, because with no one making plasmas any more (thank "the masses" for that), the future of TV is looking like a step backwards to me.

Psycho Sonny · 18 Aug 2014 at 09:34

I don't know how clued up some of you are on tv's but £2-3K is not cheap for a TV.

I bought a flagship samsung plasma panel (their top of the range model) when it went EOL for £769, brand new with 5 year warranty, free 3d glasses, etc and it is 51".

The year after I bought a 50" GT50 which used Panasonic's flagship plasma panel at the time for £799 when it went EOL, brand new with 5 year warranty and 3D glasses, etc.

I will upgrade my tv when I can get a 60" or bigger for under £1K and also offers better PQ than my current TV (LCD will never beat my current sets IMO so it has to be OLED). When OLED hits that price (don't care if it's a year old panel that's gone EOL) then it will be "cheap" but not before then, it's overpriced atm and when it hits <£2K it will be normal pricing, sub £1K is "cheap" when you compare it with how much top of the range flagship plasma panels cost a year or two back.

james.miller · 18 Aug 2014 at 10:05

champ222 said:
Has anyone seen an OLED properly set up in the home?

I was interested in seeing one, since they've promised to be all things to all men for years, but when I saw one in a shop, it just looked like any other LCD to me....

It was obviously in shop mode, but it was nowhere near as natural looking as a plasma, my personal favourite.

Hopefully it was just the shops settings and bright lights, because with no one making plasmas any more (thank "the masses" for that), the future of TV is looking like a step backwards to me.

Never base an opinion on anything you see in a shop. Makes it difficult to shop i know but that's the reality of it. What you are doing is allowing the shop monkies you influence your decision through their complete lack of understanding and training in tv calibration. On the other hand I wouldnt trust them as far as i could throw them.

Psycho Sonny said:
I don't know how clued up some of you are on tv's but £2-3K is not cheap for a TV.

I bought a flagship samsung plasma panel (their top of the range model) when it went EOL for £769, brand new with 5 year warranty, free 3d glasses, etc and it is 51".

The year after I bought a 50" GT50 which used Panasonic's flagship plasma panel at the time for £799 when it went EOL, brand new with 5 year warranty and 3D glasses, etc.

I will upgrade my tv when I can get a 60" or bigger for under £1K and also offers better PQ than my current TV (LCD will never beat my current sets IMO so it has to be OLED). When OLED hits that price (don't care if it's a year old panel that's gone EOL) then it will be "cheap" but not before then, it's overpriced atm and when it hits <£2K it will be normal pricing, sub £1K is "cheap" when you compare it with how much top of the range flagship plasma panels cost a year or two back.

Not sure what EOL panels have to do with any of it. Panels have to be, you know, on sale, before they can be EOL'd and sold at cost/a loss.

'One man's cheap' etc.