Ferguson and Michael Brown

Now now, never said that.
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You did. You implied that their evidence was not to be trusted because they were black

This ^ is kind of the reason that the riots kicked off. Black people being assumed guilty or of lower standing in any given situation
 
Does anyone else have an issue with the cop being named? They've just made him into a target without any proof it was racial/excessive.

Yes... policing is much more political over there, they've caved to public pressure. Cop shouldn't be named unless he's tried/found guilty IMO... they've basically just ruined his life/career over an incident where he might well have simply just been doing his job/following his training.
 
But you don't question the legitimacy of eye witness reports from people in the same community, in this 'race war'? After the autopsy already disproved a lot of their accusations that Michael was shot in the back running away.

The autopsy said he could have been shot from behind on one of the impacts. The witnesses said he was killed by being shot facing the cop, after turning around following being shot at whilst running away
 
You did. You implied that their evidence was not to be trusted because they were black

Who's evidence can be trusted? Seriously? 'Eye witnesses' claimed he was shot in the back. Autopsy revealed otherwise.

In this ****ed up 'race war' can you honestly trust anyones? Black people who say the cop executed him? White people saying the cop was doing his job?

All the liberals that scream racism racism racism, you can not get away from the fact that stories will get twisted, things may get made up to best suit one side.

It goes on in every walk of life, I'm not picking on black people. It's just that in THIS CASE it involves black people.
 
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I have always been puzzled by this. Why not see in colour? All about profiling and that includes racial.

Well known that black people in central london commit most knife crime and are far more likely to commit a knife related crime / carry a knife. Random street searches should incorporate a higher % of black people. I see no problem with this. But people will scream racism.

We don't know that. We know that there are a higher proportion of arrests, due to racial profiling. It depends 100% on your upbringing, not your race.
 
We don't know that. We know that there are a higher proportion of arrests, due to racial profiling. It depends 100% on your upbringing, not your race.

Agreed, totally on the whole upbringing thing. But this is a different conversation. Maybe I should have made that statement hypothetically. And asked if people think this is wrong.

I think you will find with research though that black people do commit the majority of knife crime in london.
 
Yet there is that he was some distance away when shot, as no gun shot residue was found on him.

This is a red herring/non issue. You don't have to be very far away from the gun to avoid having gunshot residue on you. If the guy was only 2 metres away there would be basically no residue at all on him. 2 metres is not very far at all.
 
I have always been puzzled by this. Why not see in colour? All about profiling and that includes racial.

Well known that black people in central london commit most knife crime and are far more likely to commit a knife related crime / carry a knife. Random street searches should incorporate a higher % of black people. I see no problem with this. But people will scream racism.

That isn't racism... It's fact lol. The stats are there to prove it.
 
Agreed, totally on the whole upbringing thing. But this is a different conversation. Maybe I should have made that statement hypothetically. And asked if people think this is wrong.

I think you wil lfind with research though that black people do commit the majority of knife crime in london.

Mmm...my opinion is that the police are more suspicious of black people, for whatever reason. As sad as that is, it's a reality, and as a consequence, more black people appear to commit crimes.

It may be true that they do commit more crimes, whether discovered or not, but this does not relate to their race. Unfortunately, even in England, black people are still treated differently to white.
 
This is a red herring/non issue. You don't have to be very far away from the gun to avoid having gunshot residue on you. If the guy was only 2 metres away there would be basically no residue at all on him. 2 metres is not very far at all.

It completely disproves shots were fired in the car as brown allegedly assaulted the officer. Shots at point blank like that would show up on the autopsy.
 
Some of the responses on here are just astounding. Taking the race thing out of the equation the police officer shot him 6 times, including twice in the head. A completely disproportionate use of force and the officer deserves to have the book thrown at him.

Agreed.

I sometimes think I'm completely out of touch with the rest of the World when I read this forum.
 
"Ferguson and Michael Brown"

Note : Subtle usage of the first name to empathize with the victim, while omitting the policeman's. At least you didn't put 'Officer'. :D Ah well, It's summer, it's riot season,...
 
"Ferguson and Michael Brown"

Note : Subtle usage of the first name to empathize with the victim, while omitting the policeman's. At least you didn't put 'Officer'. :D Ah well, It's summer, it's riot season,...

You realise Ferguson is the name of the place this occurred, not the name of the police officer involved? :p
 
It may be true that they do commit more crimes, whether discovered or not, but this does not relate to their race. Unfortunately, even in England, black people are still treated differently to white.

No it doesn't relate to their race, it's deeper than that in their upbringing. Which probably involves a higher chance of 'poverty' thus leading to a life of crime.

However I feel this is hyped up a huge amount. Many still want to play the victim card and kind of live a self-fulfiling prophecy type of scenario. I know many successful, crime-free, drug free, non voilent black people. Mainly stemmed from the ability to not want to roam the streets and adopt a gang styled lifestyle.
 
I have always been puzzled by this. Why not see in colour? All about profiling and that includes racial.

Well known that black people in central london commit most knife crime and are far more likely to commit a knife related crime / carry a knife. Random street searches should incorporate a higher % of black people. I see no problem with this. But people will scream racism.

Most pedos are men, but that doesn't mean it would be acceptable for police to stop random men on the street to swab their nob for evidence. Random searches are an overextension of police powers and an invasion of human rights.
 
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