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Replacement for GTX 780ti

I feel it fair to tell the lad you don't play any Nvidia sponsored games, Matt :p.


If it were me, I'd be tempted to purchase an interim card in the £250-300 region. And for that money take your pick!

290P / 780 Lightning
 
Rusty0611 said:
I should hope it as being overclocked quite highly out the box compared to a ref 780.
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It's only 1000/1250. My stock 290's are 975/1250. I guess we have differing views on what's 'highly overclocked'. Here's the shocker though, reference 290's are faster than 780's too.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1068?vs=1036

MjFrosty said:
I feel it fair to tell the lad you don't play any Nvidia sponsored games, Matt :p.


If it were me, I'd be tempted to purchase an interim card in the £250-300 region. And for that money take your pick!

290P / 780 Lightning
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Not true, i play Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light. I also have but don't play much aside from benching the two Batman games.

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Checking steam I've also got Resident Evil 6 and Aliens Colonial Marines, both games i played a lot (back in the day) and both Nvidia titles. Both crap mind. :D

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Mafia II as well, played that a lot. :D
 
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Yeah but then the reference 290s hit 95c and drop clock speed so... reference 780s aren't that quick out the box - they're clocked very conservatively. They can all have a fair overclock chucked on them with no hassle though. All of which is moot anyway because who compares stock performance? :p
 
Rusty0611 said:
You're right they don't throttle if you want to blow your ear drums out...
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Again, not true. On their own they run at fan speeds 50%ish, sometimes lower. What happened was early batches were running at low fan speeds (quiet mode) of 40% and this was not enough to stop throttling. Not disputing the cooler makes a lot of noise over certain speeds mind, but i have to clear up some misinformation.
 
DrToffnar said:
Ahh cool, what dates and price are we looking at? Sorry, I'd look myself but I'm at work and this forum is about the only thing I can access xD
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I think there will be an announcement next month, all will be clearer then. Prices should be mentioned then too, but who can guess what Nvidia will price their cards at, they are a law unto themselves when it comes to that.
 
LtMatt said:
They did, but a bios update removed that (from the 290 cards) because 40% was not enough to stop them throttling.
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Link? Can't find anything on ze Google.

The point I made is still true though irrespective of whether a custom 290 is considered clocked highly out the box or not - the 290 is still a lot closer to its 24/7 potential clocks out the box than the 780. That was what I was getting at rather than debating the nuances of the validity of the word 'high' :p.

There's a lot of leeway in the 780 even if you get a rubbish clocker. Anyway...
 
Rusty0611 said:
Link? Can't find anything on ze Google.

The point I made is still true though irrespective of whether a custom 290 is considered clocked highly out the box or not - the 290 is still a lot closer to its 24/7 potential clocks out the box than the 780. That was what I was getting at rather than debating the nuances of the validity of the word 'high' :p.

There's a lot of leeway in the 780 even if you get a rubbish clocker. Anyway...
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I stand corrected, it was changed via drivers.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...blem-but-nvidias-smear-attack-is-heavy-handed

290 is faster clock for the clock, so the 780 has to be clocked a lot higher to keep up. Either way, 1000/1250 is not highly overclocked and i bet most 780's are boosting to well over 1100 out of the box.
 
LtMatt said:
I stand corrected, it was changed via drivers.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...blem-but-nvidias-smear-attack-is-heavy-handed

290 is faster clock for the clock, so the 780 has to be clocked a lot higher to keep up. Either way, 1000/1250 is not highly overclocked and i bet most 780's are boosting to well over 1100 out of the box.
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Not reference ones (which was your original comparison point). You're lucky if one gets above 1000 out the box :D. It doesn't have to be clocked a lot higher at all. I don't know about benchmarks but in games they're about even with a difference of 25-50 MHz but change the game and the pattern differs so it's incorrect to say that as a broad brush statement.

Ref cards are "up to" 947 MHz according to the spec sheet and the Tri-X is actually 1000/1350 which I maintain is a pretty high overclock for a custom cooled card over reference but as I said that wasn't really the point being made.
 
Rusty0611 said:
It doesn't have to be clocked a lot higher at all.
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You put a 780 and a 290 at 1200 on the core, then 290 will win. I believe almighty has already confirmed this and oweneades has said similar. and they own both cards.

almighty15 said:
I've owned both and when under water the clocks you can get on a 290 are ridiculous and they match a 780 with much lower clocks.

I had my 1.25Ghz 290 stomping on my 1.3Ghz 780 in EVERYTHING except Crysis 3... That's the only game that the 780 was faster in.
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Some great 780 deals at the moment and excellent value for money. Or hold on a month and see what the 800 series brings to the table. Matt may not have had issues but everyone I know has blacklisted amd for repeated issues.
 
LtMatt said:
You put a 780 and a 290 at 1200 on the core, then 290 will win. I believe almighty has already confirmed this and oweneades has said similar. and they own both cards.
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It depends on the game really. Win some; lose some. I didn't get tests out on my 780 before selling but using older ones as a comparison point they are practically identical. Some go one way, some go the other.

This is using 24/7 clocks not balls to wall ones.
 
Another 780 Ti, just picked up a MSI Twin Frzr Gaming GPU for just under £450. It's fast like really really fast, really quiet and cool running as well. Go for one of those if you have the cash imho.

thefogo said:
Go for a 290 PCS+
1050/1350 out of the box. Within margin of error of a reference 290x.
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^^ This is a great option as well, save some money to.
 
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